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You guys arguing the merits of WC vs air - it won't really matter if the new SB chips and the upcoming 22nm chips and the next gen chips all run cooler and cooler. The point of high end cooling is to keep our chips from burning up at high oc. But the newest chips need heroic Voltages to produce high temps - Voltages that will burn chips out far sooner than mere temps will ever do.

That's why I think our current high end air coolers will be seen as dinosaurs in a few years - no longer needed.
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You guys arguing the merits of WC vs air - it won't really matter if the new SB chips and the upcoming 22nm chips and the next gen chips all run cooler and cooler. The point of high end cooling is to keep our chips from burning up at high oc. But the newest chips need heroic Voltages to produce high temps - Voltages that will burn chips out far sooner than mere temps will ever do.

That's why I think our current high end air coolers will be seen as dinosaurs in a few years - no longer needed.
Will it be the end of WCing?
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it remains to be seen wich kind of power consumption the high end 6X and 8X SB chips will have, though, at stock speed and high oc....
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post #44 of 65
as long as it is cheap for manufacturers to make air coolers (like Intel) there will always be air cooling
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on one hand the power consumption per core decreases but on the other hand they plan to realease 16x CPUs in a year or so...
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post #46 of 65
Watercooling won't die as long as graphics cards are producing ridiculous amounts of heat with loud stock coolers? Yesterday I had great ambient temps and I was folding at 32C (860 core@1.212v) with my i5 650 folding as well (4.5ghz) and was maintaining high 30s very low 40s on the cores.

Air cooling will also never truly be phased out unless there is a dramatic change in electronics. Yes Sandy Bridge does run cooler but high end coolers are made for a small niche crowd which does overclock where quality coolers are needed. Vapor chambers are just the next type of cooler that IMO might replace air coolers because of their size (assuming the higher end ones can match high end air coolers). And wait till 16 core processors come out...
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post #47 of 65
no, Air Cooling is not over

look at your rad, it's air cooled
and better yet just get sum delta fans. there's no heat then
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post #48 of 65
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Originally Posted by Elohim View Post
you can also accomplish a true quiet system with watercooling AND big OC.
As long as you have reasonable ambient temps, and a couple PCIe slots to spare, you can usually do better with high end air (at least for noise). Just ask the guys at silentpcreivew.com, who tend to prefer air over water if possible.

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Originally Posted by Raul-7 View Post
Water is will always have it's niche users. I for one will never want to hear a GPU fan on load ever again.
High end coolers such as the Accelero Xtreme can effectively silence a high end GPU without any pump noise, however I would like to see VRM cooling on these types of coolers improve.
post #49 of 65
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You guys arguing the merits of WC vs air - it won't really matter if the new SB chips and the upcoming 22nm chips and the next gen chips all run cooler and cooler. The point of high end cooling is to keep our chips from burning up at high oc. But the newest chips need heroic Voltages to produce high temps - Voltages that will burn chips out far sooner than mere temps will ever do.

That's why I think our current high end air coolers will be seen as dinosaurs in a few years - no longer needed.
What about silence? A large high end cooler should be able to keep things cool with a <1000 RPM fan or even passive. Silence is always worth something.
    
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however I would like to see VRM cooling on these types of coolers improve.
I like the heatpipe VRM coolers for GPUs that thermalright makes. I'm still waiting for them to come out with ones for the HD6000 series.
    
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