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They outed him because of his lack of vision for tablets? Screw tablets. They're just another technology fad that will probably fade by the end of the year. With the way smartphones are advancing, tablets will soon be nothing more than less than capable, over sized non-smartphones. These companies need to concentrate on getting more battery life out of laptops and increase the performance/watt envelope. The increase in 13.3-14in laptops and stronger smartphones are going to eat into the tablet market when people start to realize that typing on a 10in screen with one hand (other hand actually holding the device) is less than productive.

Tablets are nothing but a fad and are doomed for extinction.
post #12 of 65
I won't worry, they always work things out.
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They outed him because of his lack of vision for tablets? Screw tablets. They're just another technology fad that will probably fade by the end of the year. With the way smartphones are advancing, tablets will soon be nothing more than less than capable, over sized non-smartphones. These companies need to concentrate on getting more battery life out of laptops and increase the performance/watt envelope. The increase in 13.3-14in laptops and stronger smartphones are going to eat into the tablet market when people start to realize that typing on a 10in screen with one hand (other hand actually holding the device) is less than productive.

Tablets are nothing but a fad and are doomed for extinction.
I cannot grasp them either. The ipad, for example, is just a clunkier iphone that can't make calls. Where is the appeal for me? Just give me a keyboard that I can hook to my iphone and I can send longer, more complex emails and memos through that.

As to netbooks being dead, I guess? Just give me normal windows performance in a low power machine and I'm good, I don't care what you call it.

AMD is really slow to market with its new stuff, however. Fusion is a year too late and Intel has had three refreshes since Phenom II. I guess the hexacore chips count, but meh.
    
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I cannot grasp them either. The ipad, for example, is just a clunkier iphone that can't make calls. Where is the appeal for me? Just give me a keyboard that I can hook to my iphone and I can send longer, more complex emails and memos through that.

As to netbooks being dead, I guess? Just give me normal windows performance in a low power machine and I'm good, I don't care what you call it.

AMD is really slow to market with its new stuff, however. Fusion is a year too late and Intel has had three refreshes since Phenom II. I guess the hexacore chips count, but meh.
I wouldn't call netbooks dead. I'd say they've evolved. HP is releasing a Brazos netbook (laptop?) that has an 11in screen but has a 750GB HDD or 128GB SSD. That's way more performance than an earlier netbook but still around the same size. This is where AMD will succeed at. Having a high power/low wattage APU that will give regular laptop performance in a netbook size.
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Tablets are nothing but a fad and are doomed for extinction.
The tablet is representative of a shift in computing technology... the tablet as a concept may die as a fad, but the underlying technology is here to stay.

Frankly AMD (besides undercutting Intel and NVIDIA on pricing) has no true "ace in hole" product that can promote long term growth and profit. That is the inherent problem.

Plus, NVIDIA + ARM = biggest shift in the tech landscape in a long, long time... it takes Intel's monopoly completely away with no legal ramifications, especially if Microsoft is willing to support ARM.
    
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Frankly AMD (besides undercutting NVIDIA on pricing) has no true "ace in hole" product that can promote long term growth and profit.
How does AMD undercut Nvidia by selling the same size chip for 150 more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127554
MSI Radeon 6970 370$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-518-_-Product
MSI 460 GTX 209$
post #17 of 65
Alex has it right. Meyers lack of vision was keeping AMD stuck in the mud. It takes some risk, innovation, and crossing into new territory to keep things moving, and they all benefit in some way from each other. If AMD buys into ARM technology, think of what it will do for their laptop chips, or even itx based computers. Even the 6000 series is a reflection of Meyers inability to push the limit. Hopefully, this will be the new beginning for AMD.

Edit: I do disagree with you Alex on one point. AMDs ace in the hole is the gaming community. Affordable, quality gaming components is AMDs "flush" over aces so to speak. But piss off the gaming community with underachieving, overpriced GPUs and, well, you get the point.
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How does AMD undercut Nvidia by selling the same size chip for 150 more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127554
MSI Radeon 6970 370$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-518-_-Product
MSI 460 GTX 209$

That doesn't make any sence (sp?). The size of the chip won't make the price that much more, it's the complexity of the chip and the performance.
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How does AMD undercut Nvidia by selling the same size chip for 150 more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127554
MSI Radeon 6970 370$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-518-_-Product
MSI 460 GTX 209$
Do those perform similarly? Not at all...
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The tablet is representative of a shift in computing technology... the tablet as a concept may die as a fad, but the underlying technology is here to stay..
Tablets won't die, they will get bigger and probably replace paper in the near future is my guess. If I could have a cheap tablet that was full size for all my textbooks/studies I would buy it up immediately, but nothing is cheap yet.
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