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How?

AMD offers GTX470 performance in a package much, MUCH smaller in the 6870. This allows them to sell more chips per wafer, and in turn reduces cost per chip.

If you want to compare HD6970 to GTX460, you might as well compare an 18-wheeler to a tank in terms of fuel consumption.
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You fail on so many levels right here
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That doesn't make any sence (sp?). The size of the chip won't make the price that much more, it's the complexity of the chip and the performance.
He's saying that AMD is able to sell the HD6970 which has a similar material cost to the GTX 460 at a much higher price, because its performance is leaps and bounds over it, therefore they are able to make more money than NVIDIA with it.
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post #32 of 65
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How?

AMD offers GTX470 performance in a package much, MUCH smaller in the 6870. This allows them to sell more chips per wafer, and in turn reduces cost per chip.
I guess I just don't understand how AMD using 10 seeds to grow 15 cobbs of corn is undercutting Nvidia. When Nvidia uses 10 seeds for 10 cobbs of corn and then sell their cobb of corn cheaper because it doesn't taste as good.
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Designing better chips than your competitor is not a long term growth strategy.
If you sell them at performance appropriate prices while maximizing profit it sure is...
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I smell a troll.
Don't feed the troll.
I care about how well a chunk of Si performs, not how much it costs to make vs a competitor's chunk of Si.
 
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post #35 of 65
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Really... hhmmm, I'm so

So Intel got where they are by designing worse chips then Cyrix, AMD, VIA, IBM, and all other old and new chip makers?
Until Socket 775, in terms of chipsets..That was true.
    
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I loved my Cyrix 486. It could play Quake with out a floating point processor.
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Putting yourself into debt acquiring another company is supposed to bring stocks up?

I do agree on the fact that they should jump on the tablet bandwagon..new tablets outnumbered anything else at CES by quite a margin.
    
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They outed him because of his lack of vision for tablets? Screw tablets. They're just another technology fad that will probably fade by the end of the year. With the way smartphones are advancing, tablets will soon be nothing more than less than capable, over sized non-smartphones. These companies need to concentrate on getting more battery life out of laptops and increase the performance/watt envelope. The increase in 13.3-14in laptops and stronger smartphones are going to eat into the tablet market when people start to realize that typing on a 10in screen with one hand (other hand actually holding the device) is less than productive.

Tablets are nothing but a fad and are doomed for extinction.
i think not.
things as pointless as ipads are doomed to extinction but a legit tablet PC is not! its a great concept too. its basically a smaller laptop but with a touch screen and no keyboard.
i think tablets like that is a great idea and should remain in power!
    
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Putting yourself into debt acquiring another company is supposed to bring stocks up?

I do agree on the fact that they should jump on the tablet bandwagon..new tablets outnumbered anything else at CES by quite a margin.
AMD have the majority of the discrete GPU market, so you tell us whether it was worth it or not.
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For the most part, we are enthusiasts, not mainstream. It doesn't matter that some of us see no appeal in tablets. Tablets are big ticket items right now, and so are smart phones. AMD missed the bus with both. This looks bad at the corporate level, and it looks bad to investors...it's a missed opportunity that shouldn't have been missed. If nothing else, a token investment in R&D for these 2 technologies would have gone a long way towards gaining and maintaining investor confidence. The best course of action would have been to develop something, anything, to cater to these markets while watching market trends to determine the popularity of the products. Instead, AMD has spent the past few years tweaking old tech (still nice products, but no longer innovative) and ignoring new trends. They are still making money, but they aren't performing as well as they could be.
 
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