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Originally Posted by ericld;12002134 
Hehe, I am just waiting for the Jaguar C-X75 to go into production. It is a hybrid, 70m on a charge or just under 500m with the twin turbines charging all 4 wheels, and a top speed of over 200mph. Oh my, I just have to have one. Going green never felt so good.

I don't trust anything Jaguar. Last supercar they made was a death trap, a friggin bar of soap on wheels. tongue.gif

This here though, 200mph and 78mgp... for reals?

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My wife works at a Nissan dealership so I asked her to ask the GTR technician about this performance package and here's what she said the tech said. The Alpha 10 package is a totally aftermarket thing not endorsed by Nissan at all. Doing the package on the GTR will void your warranty and really does the GTR really need much 'overclocking'? Nissan does provide a performance tuning package which stays within their warranty.

No matter what I would 'overclock' my GTR to its limits,even if it voids the warranty.


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Originally Posted by clark_b;12065798 
Take a look at biodiesel. Obviously people are too retarded to realize it's the most logical route to take in moving away from gasoline...
The biggest problem with moving everything from gasoline to biodiesel is our inability to make enough for every vehicles to use.

The problem is with Biodiesel production itself - it still needs oil, lots of it. At the moment, that oil is vegetable oil and the problem with using vegetable oil is that there is not enough arable land (ie. farming land) to be able to grow the vegetable stock to cater for the amount of biodiesel that is needed, as well as still allow for the farming of foodstocks that humans need to survive.

So we either use the land to grow food stock so we can live, or we use it to grow plant stock for biodiesel so we can drive - I know what I prefer wink.gif

ATM there is research into using algae to produce the oil, so as to not use the arable land that is already needed for growing food - but that is still in the R&D stages and will take many years before they gain enough from their research to actually start manufacturing biodiesel on a large enough scale to be worthwhile.

Saying that, using biodiesel will still be needed in the future, because long distance travel and/or travel distance of larger heavier vehicles will always be an issue with batteries alone.

It would still be beneficial to use it as much as possible in current diesel engine vehicles too, especially those used in transport and shipping.

So while I do agree it is needed in the future, and diesel engines and biodiesel fuels will no doubt replace gasoline and current diesel vehicles, there just isn't any way possible to do that using current technology and manufacturing processes.

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True that, I guess I was trying to raise the point that there will still be pollution and disposal concerns no matter what tech we are using.
There will always be pollution no matter what - we just have to choose the option that has lower pollution that still caters to our needs smile.gif

With gasoline, there is more pollution in production, and then more pollution using it. Plus the crude oil it is refined from is a limited resource and running out.

With lithium based batteries, there is less pollution in production, no pollution during use, and only minimal pollution during charging that can be offset using green power. Plus there is enough lithium currently located on earth to last the next 2 millennium - more then long enough IMO biggrin.gif

So between electric vehicles using lithium based batteries and gasoline engine vehciles, the electric vehicles is easily the cleaner alternative.
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This here though, 200mph and 78mgp... for reals?

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Yeah that's a nice EV and fitting of a "Supercar" label smile.gif

But when I think of EV supercar, it has to be the Ultimate Aero EV from Shelby Supercars - if they ever get it into production tongue.gif

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Specs:
Motor: twin electric AESP motors
Horsepower: 1,000 hp (746 kW)
Torque: 800 lb·ft (1,100 N·m)
Acceleration: 0-60 mph (97 km/h) in 2.5 seconds
Top speed: 208 mph (335 km/h).
Range: 150–200 miles per charge
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^^ i think i just jizzed my pants....
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Seems like almost all cars from each "class" be it coupe, sedan, supercar are all becoming very homogenous. By that I mean half the cars above are only very slightly different in overall shape than a 1984 Lambo Countach. Lexus sport sedans and Audi sedans and Bmw sedans are all falling into near-identical sillhouettes.

Is it simply due to wind tunnel testing and there only being so many ways to skin a cat when it comes to aerodynamics?
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Originally Posted by Mjolnir;12075120 
Seems like almost all cars from each "class" be it coupe, sedan, supercar are all becoming very homogenous. By that I mean half the cars above are only very slightly different in overall shape than a 1984 Lambo Countach. Lexus sport sedans and Audi sedans and Bmw sedans are all falling into near-identical sillhouettes.

Is it simply due to wind tunnel testing and there only being so many ways to skin a cat when it comes to aerodynamics?

As far as the Lambo looking cars, yea I think it comes down to packaging. The wedge shape gets you a low frontal area and allows you to package the motor and all its bits in the back, hence the wedge.

Another extreme is the Caparo T1, which borrows from F1.

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Fashionable, delicious, and shape of choice for supercars.

The wedge is the Arian shape.

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I don't trust anything Jaguar. Last supercar they made was a death trap, a friggin bar of soap on wheels. tongue.gif

but wasn't that when they were still owned by ford??
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The biggest problem with moving everything from gasoline to biodiesel is our inability to make enough for every vehicles to use.

The problem is with Biodiesel production itself - it still needs oil, lots of it. At the moment, that oil is vegetable oil and the problem with using vegetable oil is that there is not enough arable land (ie. farming land) to be able to grow the vegetable stock to cater for the amount of biodiesel that is needed, as well as still allow for the farming of foodstocks that humans need to survive.

So we either use the land to grow food stock so we can live, or we use it to grow plant stock for biodiesel so we can drive - I know what I prefer wink.gif

ATM there is research into using algae to produce the oil, so as to not use the arable land that is already needed for growing food - but that is still in the R&D stages and will take many years before they gain enough from their research to actually start manufacturing biodiesel on a large enough scale to be worthwhile.

Saying that, using biodiesel will still be needed in the future, because long distance travel and/or travel distance of larger heavier vehicles will always be an issue with batteries alone.

It would still be beneficial to use it as much as possible in current diesel engine vehicles too, especially those used in transport and shipping.

So while I do agree it is needed in the future, and diesel engines and biodiesel fuels will no doubt replace gasoline and current diesel vehicles, there just isn't any way possible to do that using current technology and manufacturing processes.

true, sort of.... there are processes to make biodiesel from algae, wood, and other things. They just haven't advanced to become commercially viable because our stupid government gives most of its grants and subsidies to other "alternative fuel source" programs, most of which are of an electric nature of some sort.

and considering the fact that just using bio in a normal diesel engine reduces co2 and hydrocarbon emissions, and engineering engines specifically for use with b100 would likely reduce emissions even further.

from an environmental standpoint, i think a diesel/electric hybrid is the best solution, for you tree huggers out there. as a diesel engine is far more efficient than those gasoline ones used now.

but think about it, for overall hp-tq to fuel consumption nothing can beat diesel/biodiesel. plus they can be fast and sporty, in addition to still giving you some sexy exhaust tones....
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Originally Posted by clark_b;12078161 
but wasn't that when they were still owned by ford??

No, that lovely soapdish on wheels was created before Ford took control by a small team of loyal Jag designers, ala Saturday special. By the time they finished, Ford the new owners, greenlighted the project via shotgun wedding.
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