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I had an X48 mobo with E8500 - no sli onboard, just xfire - bought 2 x GTX460 as first step new build. Wanted to play Mafia II. Bunged them in with one dedicated to FizzX. Not so great. "Less than optimal" 37fps with a few things turned down.

Got X58 with i7-950 set to run in sli allowing drivers to manage FizzX with same pair GTX460. Great.

Obviously you can dedicate one to physX, but performance is less than if you just run SLI.

Discovered after all that not that keen on Mafia II after all.



That's with everything turned up full too.
Edited by alancsalt - 1/14/11 at 2:20am
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Alright, so I OC'ed my CPU to 3.9GHz, and still no luck. I tested only using Batman: AA, since I felt that if I didn't see a difference in that game, then there's no reason to test the other games. Anyway, after seeing no increase in FPS whether I used the 260 or not, I still felt that my CPU was lacking some horsepower. I came to that conclusion due to the fact that while running the benchmark, my 480's GPU usage was rarely at 99%, whether it had help with the Physx or not.

What I decided to do to eliminate my CPU as a potential problem was put even more work on my 480, since it wasn't getting enough, thus resulting in my CPU holding back some FPS. This is what did it.

I went ahead and upped the AA from 4x to 16xQ, the highest setting for AA on that game. Doing this resulted in a huge difference in FPS - roughly a 16% increase in FPS when the 260 was helping out. I've attached the evidence on this post. The benchmark with the 260 is the 88 FPS one, and the 76 FPS one is the one with only the 480.

Now that I got the FPS difference I've been looking for, I think it's safe to say that a dedicated card can help, depending on your CPU power and the workload your GPU has. With that being said, I think I might be better off ditching the 260 anyway, seeing as how this is only 1 of 3 games that I have that uses Physx. I don't think I'll ever see a difference in Metro and Mafia II due to the fact that Metro barely uses Physx, and I can't add anymore stress to my 480 on Mafia II - it's completely maxed out. If Just Cause 2 could use a dedicated CUDA processor, however, that would change everything for me. I would keep my 260 in just for that game alone. I don't think it's possible to use a dedicated CUDA processor for that game, unfortunately, so I'm better off just OC'ing my 480.

Although I've found out what my problem was, feel free to still post Physx benchmarks to see how much of a difference a dedicated card can really make, just be sure to include all the settings you've used. The more info given, the better for others so they can make the most informed decisions regarding dedicated Physx cards. I'm going to edit my first post quite a bit, and make this a thread dedicated to Physx benchies with and without dedicated Physx cards.


My info regarding the benchmarks:
  1. Game: Batman: AA
  2. Driver version: 260.99
  3. Game settings: AA@16xQ, AF@16x, all other settings at max
  4. Resolution: 1680x1050
  5. CPU OC'ed to 3.75GHz, 480@820/1641/1900, 260@626/1349/1053
  6. Average FPS without a dedicated card: 76; with one: 88
  7. Something worth mentioning: My 260 is in a x4 PCI-E slot



Edited by TheRockMonsi - 1/14/11 at 7:28pm
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRockMonsi View Post
Although I've found out what my problem was, feel free to still post Physx benchmarks to see how much of a difference a dedicated card can really make, just be sure to include all the settings you've used. The more info given, the better for others so they can make the most informed decisions regarding dedicated Physx cards. I'm going to edit my first post quite a bit, and make this a thread dedicated to Physx benchies with and without dedicated Physx cards.
Good, perhaps you can edit the title of this thread to make it a little more 'generic' towards the broad topic of ''with and without a dedicated Physx card''.

In a couple months, I will likely upgrade my Physx card to a GTX285 and I surely will rerun some tests to further explore this topic.
Edited by windfire - 1/14/11 at 6:07pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brettjv View Post
Here's my tests. I observed some very different things:

Batman AA (in-game settings maxed at 1920x1200)

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/7867...g-results.html

Here's my (single 470) VS (single 470 + physX dedicated 470) results


Mafia 2 (in-game settings maxed at 1920x1200)

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/8011...s-strange.html

Here's my (single 470) VS (single 470 + physX dedicated 470) results

Metro has squat for PhysX effects so the results don't mean much, frankly.
Which driver version(s) were you using?
EDIT:
You can edit that post with the version if you want, but it's no longer required for me to post it.

@windfire, I'm in the process of putting up your Mafia II benches. Btw, what resolution do you use?
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Later on i'll chuck my 8800 in with the 480 and see if it makes any difference
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I'm posting here to notify everybody that I've clarified the purpose of this thread. The purpose is to post benchmarks of systems using a dedicated Physx card and see how much better they fair in comparison to not having a dedicated GPU.

If you feel like there's something that I should add or change to this thread that would make it better - whether it be how I post the benchmarks in the OP, what I should include when looking at posts of benchmarks, or even how I word the purpose of this thread - feel free to suggest it and I will certainly consider adding it.
 
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Sorry for the double post, but bumping to say that I've officially added brettjv's and windfire's numbers for their respective games. Thanks for the contributions guys.
 
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Subbed, though I plan on getting a 9800 for folding purposes, It couldnt hurt to also use it for physx on the side, will be watching for sure
    
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Subbed, though I plan on getting a 9800 for folding purposes, It couldnt hurt to also use it for physx on the side, will be watching for sure
Awesome, glad you're interested in this.

Well, I said I was going to try out 3D and see how things would fair there, and let me tell you, for us 3D gamers it's something to consider. Take a look at the screen shots. All settings were maxed out with AA@16xQ and AF@16x. Also, this was done with max depth and default convergence.

With my GTX 480 alone:
  • Minumum FPS: 19FPS
  • Maximum FPS: 60FPS
  • Average FPS: 39FPS

With a dedicated GTX 260:
  • Minumum FPS: 24FPS
  • Maximum FPS: 60FPS
  • Average FPS: 46FPS

Increases going from a single card solution to multiple:
  • Minumum FPS: 26.3% increase
  • Maximum FPS: 0% increase
  • Average FPS: 17.9% increase

Now allow me to explain some things: First off, when enabling 3D Vision, your games have a forced vsync of 60Hz due to the fact that 2 separate frames have to be made for each eye, and there's no way to take that off. Secondly, you'll notice at the top left hand corner of the shots that the total memory usage for both benchmarks were in excess of 1200MB. While running the 480 alone, I was using on average 1300MB+ of memory; I didn't keep track of the usage for the dual card setup, but I'll run the benchmark again to find out. So if you're a 3D gamer, you certainly want to make sure you have sufficient VRAM to run your games smoothly.

 
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TheRockMonsi:
If you see fit to combine member Mentoss' test results into this thread, go ahead.

Here:
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9046...70-vs-gtx.html
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