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Awesome, I'll get that added before the weekend is over. Thanks a lot windfire.
 
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Got a couple for you.

i5-2500k @ 5GHz, GTX 470 @ 816 core, 9800GT @ 825/1942 8x/8x

Few things of note: When the GTX 470 runs physx it seems to bottleneck itself.

When the cpu is doing physx gpu usage dives way down, even though the cpu isn't hitting high load, it seems to be slower to compute the many things going on without having tons of little, slower "threads" to use.

With the 9800GT running the Physx it's a lot smoother, however it's still clear that the 9800GT is a bottleneck here as well, though not as much as the GTX 470 was to itself.

All settings are on "max" @ 1080.

Benchmarked with game demo, did not modify the cloth folder.

GTX 470:


CPU:


9800GT


GTX 470 @ 900 core -> all other settings and clocks are the same - Physx on the 9800GT



Physx off:


Physx off @ 900 core:


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Okay, I have Mentoss's and BallaTheFeared's numbers up now.

There's something I've been considering, and that's merging the 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 resolutions together because of how close they are to each other. Is that a bad idea? I'm really considering it at this point.
 
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Just wanted to throw out on observation I've made doing physX benchies ... I *think* it is the case that the graphs in AB will either show regular rendering GPU usage OR physX usage, but not the cumulative effect of both on the same card.

IOW, if one card is doing render work + physX the GPU usage you see in the graphs will only reflect the GPU usage spent doing the rendering portion of the work. Thus the only time the usage graphs show actual physX workload directly is when it's doing it on a dedicated card.

I could be wrong though as I'm pulling this from memory not testing it right now.
    
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When my gtx 470 was doing physx I said (it bottlenecked itself)...

I guess what I meant was - the gpu usage of the gtx 470 instead of being @ or near 99% almost the entire time, it went down in usage, steeper than it did with my 9800GT doing the Physx.

It seems to me, and perhaps it's very obvious, but the graphics can't be rendered until the physx are done, so frame rate drops to allow the physx calculations to take place.

Does that sound correct?
    
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When my gtx 470 was doing physx I said (it bottlenecked itself)...

I guess what I meant was - the gpu usage of the gtx 470 instead of being @ or near 99% almost the entire time, it went down in usage, steeper than it did with my 9800GT doing the Physx.

It seems to me, and perhaps it's very obvious, but the graphics can't be rendered until the physx are done, so frame rate drops to allow the physx calculations to take place.

Does that sound correct?
Sure, that basically amounts to the same thing

What I'm saying is that the GPU usage on a card doing physX + rendering is only reflective of the work being done on rendering portion of the workload.

IOW, if you turn off physX and your GPU usage is 100%, then you turn on physX and your GPU usage is 70%, what's going on there is that you're only seeing the % that is the rendering workload ... the other 30% that's not showing up is the physX workload.

So you're still at 100% workload in a certain sense, but you don't see rendering + physX work in the graphs, only the rendering work.

However if you run a dedicated physX card, the GPU usage is actually reflective of the physX workload on that card.
    
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Okay, so based on what you guys just said there, if I'm using a dedicated Physx card and my primary GPU still isn't at 100% load, that means my Physx card is the bottleneck?

I'm having this problem in Mafia II. I'm getting on average in the high 30's in benches with my 260, but when I OC'ed it a little, I actually broke the 40FPS barrier.
 
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Yes, either the physx card is or your cpu could also be, depend on the make and speed and how powerful your gpu's are.


With the same clocks on the gpus, my 1090T @ 4.5GHz scored 12 fps lower with physx, but only about 6 fps slower with just the GTX 470 (all though in the latter case the GTX 470 was running at a full x16 whereas in my newest results it's running x8).

I got rid of my 1090T because I'd like to go sli right as kepler comes out so I can sang up another gtx 470 for real cheap.
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windfire's numbers[/url] with AA on, AF@16x, all other settings maxed:
With the GTX 570 (OC'ed@780/1560/2000) alone: 26FPS
With a dedicated 8800GTX (Stock@575/1350/1800): 40FPS
Percentage increase using a dedicated Physx card: 53.8%
I see a mistake here.
26FPS should be ''38FPS''
40FPS should be ''43FPS"
So, it is 13.2%

And the above numbers were done with 266.35 Beta, I have now added 266.58 WHQL and the numbers become:

40FPS for the GTX570 alone
45FPS for having a dedicated 8800GTX
Thus, making 12.5% increase.

Please update the OP.
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Quote:
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I see a mistake here.
26FPS should be ''38FPS''
40FPS should be ''43FPS"
So, it is 13.2%

And the above numbers were done with 266.35 Beta, I have now added 266.58 WHQL and the numbers become:

40FPS for the GTX570 alone
45FPS for having a dedicated 8800GTX
Thus, making 12.5% increase.

Please update the OP.
I'll post the FPS based on the new 266.58 drivers. Thanks for catching that.
 
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