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you should make up your own mind....

to answer the original question... NO
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So is there a way to actually attach the 480 radiator to the TJ07 or is a stand off the best I can do?Cause I am pretty sure to have seen screw holes in youtube videos right above the rad...maybe they are meant for the harddrive cages I don´t know just tell me if it is possible to actually mount the rad and not just have it standing there.
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...ush-config.jpg
(See?just screwing it down from above)

And I don´t know if the no was meant for my "Does the Phobya Balancer 250 fit into the case but give me some heads up on that too
http://img243.imageshack.us/f/980xcr...d7build14.jpg/
Nearly like this just a little backwards to those screwholes...between the RAM and Bays
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Originally Posted by veblen View Post
1. You can get a radiator stand - I suggest the WCUK stands since they are designed to fit the TJ07 if I'm not wrong. I have the WCUK and Phobya stands and the WCUK one fits better. You can then remove the drive cages and use the holes to mount the rad stand and the rad.
These stands (WCUK ones) have been out of stock for months, I tried ordering one and was turned down, every site I've seen them on is sold out and has been for a while now.

OP: The tj07 requires modding to fit a rad any bigger than 240 in to the bottom compartment with HDD cages. The HDD cages are stored in that location, so it would limit you to a 240 rad tops. If you remove those HDD cages you can easily get a 480 in there.

To fit a decent amount of WC gear in the TJ07 a lot of stock parts have to go. The HDD cages are the first to go, the HDD's will need to be mounted in the 5.25" bays with adapters. If you go inverted ATX, you can't use the stock meshing in the top. You cannot mount a rad in the top of this case without making yourself an adapter or by drilling out the stock mesh.

My TJ07 is totally rebuilt inside except for the stock aluminum midplate and 5.25" drive bays. Everything else is custom made by Me.



480 rad in place with custom built rad stand, no screws used anywhere for My rad stands.
Edited by Flux - 1/16/11 at 2:05pm
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So is there a way to actually attach the 480 radiator to the TJ07 or is a stand off the best I can do?Cause I am pretty sure to have seen screw holes in youtube videos right above the rad...maybe they are meant for the harddrive cages I don´t know just tell me if it is possible to actually mount the rad and not just have it standing there.
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...ush-config.jpg
(See?just screwing it down from above)
There's a couple ways to do this:

The easiest way is to just stick it down to the bottom of the case using heavy-duty velcro/tape (works surprisingly well). Your rad won't move and will be fine (the case itself is big and I don't see how it would be getting shaken around save an earthquake or a bomb, at which point you'll probably have more to worry about than your rad standing up straight). This is the method I'm using now. The only drawback is that the rad won't align up perfectly with the side-mesh.

If you're a stickler for perfection and you really care about those things, you can use plastic pedestals to raise the rad up to the appropriate height. Google search "TJ07 hammond boxes". I'm pretty sure this is how Charles from murdermod does it and you can see lots of examples of this as it is the most popular way to do it. Just like first method, you use tape/velcro to secure the boxes/rad.

Your third option is to find an aftermarket bracket (http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...oducts_id=1239) and screw this down into the bottom of the case.
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There's a couple ways to do this:

The easiest way is to just stick it down to the bottom of the case using heavy-duty velcro/tape (works surprisingly well). Your rad won't move and will be fine (the case itself is big and I don't see how it would be getting shaken around save an earthquake or a bomb, at which point you'll probably have more to worry about than your rad standing up straight). This is the method I'm using now. The only drawback is that the rad won't align up perfectly with the side-mesh.

If you're a stickler for perfection and you really care about those things, you can use plastic pedestals to raise the rad up to the appropriate height. Google search "TJ07 hammond boxes". I'm pretty sure this is how Charles from murdermod does it and you can see lots of examples of this as it is the most popular way to do it. Just like first method, you use tape/velcro to secure the boxes/rad.

Your third option is to find an aftermarket bracket (http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...oducts_id=1239) and screw this down into the bottom of the case.

Charles uses custom stands, not cheap plastic boxes.
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i'm amazed at how many ppl are entertaining this thread... and probably not even one part has been purchased towards this so called build
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Charles uses custom stands, not cheap plastic boxes.
See: http://www.murdermod.com/murdermod-t...ermod-tj07.htm

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murderWare Kit Contents: Psychopack Sleeving Kit, Original Molex Pin Extractor, 4x Hammond Boxes + Black Mounting Screws, 100x M3 Black Screws, 100x 6-32 UNC Black Screws, Black "P-Clips" - Various Sizes, Fan Grill Black Screws, 10-Pack Nitrile Gloves, Black 3Pin Connectors, Black Molex Connectors and other "little extras".
The boxes are used for raising the rad and to cover up the powerbutton PCB.

Why would he manufacture "custom stands" when these "cheap plastic boxes" are all you need and already being manufactured in high volume?

And if you do some research and look into it, you will see that he does in fact use these boxes for his builds.
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Originally Posted by Philth View Post
See: http://www.murdermod.com/murdermod-t...ermod-tj07.htm



The boxes are used for raising the rad and to cover up the powerbutton PCB.

Why would he manufacture "custom stands" when these "cheap plastic boxes" are all you need and already being manufactured in high volume?

And if you do some research and look into it, you will see that he does in fact use these boxes for his builds.
He uses these boxes for covering the front panel PCB. I have never seen them used anywhere else in any his TJ07 builds I believe Charles uses them to cover the PCB of the LCD's he uses.

EDIT: The boxes he's using are 30mm tall, if he was to use these to support the rad, it would almost hit the bottom of the mid plate. I just measured a MM hammond and my case. It leaves about 5mm to spare,
Edited by Flux - 1/16/11 at 2:19pm
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i'm amazed at how many ppl are entertaining this thread... and probably not even one part has been purchased towards this so called build
Was there any point to this post at all aside from you acting like a total ass towards the OP? This is a community of tech enthusiasts, so regardless as to whether or not he has yet purchased any items of his build, we will still help him because that is what this community is for. Have you never heard of the term research before you buy? If the majority of people actually practiced that, the world would be much better off.
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