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So is there a way to actually attach the 480 radiator to the TJ07 or is a stand off the best I can do?Cause I am pretty sure to have seen screw holes in youtube videos right above the rad...maybe they are meant for the harddrive cages I don´t know just tell me if it is possible to actually mount the rad and not just have it standing there.
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...ush-config.jpg
(See?just screwing it down from above)

And I don´t know if the no was meant for my "Does the Phobya Balancer 250 fit into the case but give me some heads up on that too
http://img243.imageshack.us/f/980xcr...d7build14.jpg/
Nearly like this just a little backwards to those screwholes...between the RAM and Bays
If you absolutely refuse any type of modding at all, you can use industrial strength Velcro like others have suggested. It is actually very strong and will not come lose unless you put an extraordinary amount of instantaneous force on it.
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no need for name calling here...
this is not research... this is asking for answers... and sometimes not even asking... insisting ppl answer him... i have nothing against the OP... he is in the right for asking... but sometimes it gets out of hand... with a little bit of research a lot of these question wouldn't have to be asked in the first place...

so what was the point of your post besides calling me an ass... maybe i'm trying to influence the OP to stop... take a deep breath... and figure out what exactly he wants to do... this is not his first thread that wandered off into oblivion... and i've helped answer several of his questions... and spent time doing the "research" for him to answer them..

i've built my current loop.. with zero posts on this forum... and about no more then 10 posts on overclockers... so i know what researching is... key word "search"... and asking for opinions is like saying "build the loop for me"
Edited by 808MP5 - 1/16/11 at 2:38pm
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He uses these boxes for covering the front panel PCB. I have never seen them used anywhere else in any his TJ07 builds I believe Charles uses them to cover the PCB of the LCD's he uses.

EDIT: The boxes he's using are 30mm tall, if he was to use these to support the rad, it would almost hit the bottom of the mid plate. I just measured a MM hammond and my case. It leaves about 5mm to spare,
http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gal...rderbox-04.jpg
http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gal...rderbox-02.jpg

This much room?
If you look closely at the second, you can see the boxes being used.
I'm only saying this because I remember specifically reading a thread where he stated using the boxes as pedestals. Further support comes from the previous link I gave you which says he includes 4x of these boxes (there arn't 4 powerswitch pcbs). Not to mention I have never seen it mentioned on any of his builds that he manufactured a custom pedestal.

You could be right, but I'm pretty sure he's used these boxes in atleast one of his builds.

The top of the boxes also comes off, so that could give you the extra clearance needed.
Edited by Philth - 1/16/11 at 2:27pm
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http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gal...rderbox-04.jpg
http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/gal...rderbox-02.jpg

This much room?
If you look closely at the second, you can see the boxes being used.
I'm only saying this because I remember specifically reading a thread where he stated using the boxes as pedestals. Further support comes from the previous link I gave you which says he includes 4x of these boxes (there arn't 4 powerswitch pcbs). Not to mention I have never seen it mentioned on any of his builds that he manufactured a custom pedestal.

You could be right, but I'm pretty sure he's used these boxes in atleast one of his builds.

The top of the boxes also comes off, so that could give you the extra clearance needed.
I measured the unit without the top as that's how he uses them. It's still 30mm tall and 32mm tall with the top/bottom.

I just don't see a man whom spends the amount of time and money on his builds using .50C boxes to support his rad, he may have done it once but I've never seen it again since that first build you linked.


I would suggest Charles supplying 4 boxes is due to how easy they are to crack whilst drilling them out for the PCB Cover (I cracked 2 with Ti bits), but then again you could use them just about anywhere to hide anything that size.

I just tried it out with 4 MM hammond boxes, it does indeed work but needs more holes drilled and the boxes are visible at lots of angles/ 4 black squares along the bottom of the case draw your eye to it.
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First of all thank you all for your effort and GREAT input!!

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These stands (WCUK ones) have been out of stock for months, I tried ordering one and was turned down, every site I've seen them on is sold out and has been for a while now.

OP: The tj07 requires modding to fit a rad any bigger than 240 in to the bottom compartment with HDD cages. The HDD cages are stored in that location, so it would limit you to a 240 rad tops. If you remove those HDD cages you can easily get a 480 in there.
I am willing to do basic mod jobs no problem But at the point when it comes to sawing, drilling etc I won´t be able to continue.

Ok so there is now way to actually attach the rad to the case using screws?
By using a standoff the rad won´t fall down but will it be fastened?
Look here: at exactly 06:59-07:00 ...you can see the screw holes that I have been talking about ..and my question is if I elevated the rad somehow via stand off or anything...would it be able to screw it down through those screw holes?

In your picture ...your rad just stands there right? If you tilted the case the rad would fall down?

Here are the standoffs I have acces to:http://www.aquatuning.at/index.php/cat/c945_mounts.html

And sry maybe I missed it but does the Phobya 250 Balancer fit into the TJ07 now? mounted like this:http://img520.imageshack.us/f/140520071030um9.jpg/

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Was there any point to this post at all aside from you acting like a total ass towards the OP? This is a community of tech enthusiasts, so regardless as to whether or not he has yet purchased any items of his build, we will still help him because that is what this community is for. Have you never heard of the term research before you buy? If the majority of people actually practiced that, the world would be much better off.
That attitude is exactly why I love the people here and this forum so much.
It is really hard to find a good decent forum where people are still dedicated to helping not judging

I am very lucky that all of you are making such an effort...thank you
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no need for name calling here...
this is not research... this is asking for answers... and sometimes not even asking... insisting ppl answer him... i have nothing against the OP... he is in the right for asking... but sometimes it gets out of hand... with a little bit of research a lot of these question wouldn't have to be asked in the first place...

so what was the point of your post besides calling me an ass... maybe i'm trying to influence the OP to stop... take a deep breath... and figure out what exactly he wants to do... this is not his first thread that wandered off into oblivion... and i've helped answer several of his questions... and spent time doing the "research" for him to answer them..

i've built my current loop.. with zero posts on this forum... and about no more then 10 posts on overclockers... so i know what researching is... key word "search"... and asking for opinions is like saying "build the loop for me"
Not everyone is as adept at searching as you and I can vouch that OCN's search functions are not always productive. That is why some people still repost news even after searching. If you do not feel that he should be helped, simply leave the thread alone. Besides, water cooling is a huge jump. When I first started, I asked thousands of questions and still felt insecure putting the build together. I still remember my first build:

- Bonneville double heatercore
- Aqua Via 1300 with impeller mod
- Little River Whitewater block
- Plastic T-fitting with an AA battery to plug it
- Homebrew coolant of aquarium biocide, 50/50 antifreeze, and distilled water

No noobie to water cooling will feel completely comfortable and who can blame them? Water and computers generally do not mix.

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There are some stands that utilize the existing holes in the case, but most solutions of installing a radiator below still involves minimal drilling to screw in and secure the stand. Typically you install the stand first, and then bolt the radiator to the stand.
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First of all thank you all for your effort and GREAT input!!


I am willing to do basic mod jobs no problem But at the point when it comes to sawing, drilling etc I won´t be able to continue.

Ok so there is now way to actually attach the rad to the case using screws?
By using a standoff the rad won´t fall down but will it be fastened?
Look here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5sKt...eature=related
at exactly 06:59-07:00 ...you can see the screw holes that I have been talking about ..and my question is if I elevated the rad somehow via stand off or anything...would it be able to screw it down through those screw holes?

In your picture ...your rad just stands there right? If you tilted the case the rad would fall down?

Here are the standoffs I have acces to:http://www.aquatuning.at/index.php/cat/c945_mounts.html

And sry maybe I missed it but does the Phobya 250 Balancer fit into the TJ07 now? mounted like this:http://img520.imageshack.us/f/140520071030um9.jpg/



That attitude is exactly why I love the people here and this forum so much.
It is really hard to find a good decent forum where people are still dedicated to helping not judging

I am very lucky that all of you are making such an effort...thank you
If your referring to Myself, then no the rad stand doesn't just stand there, it's 3M industrial strength double sided 1mm foam taped, this was done so it wont ever move without lots of force and so I didn't need to drill anything. The rad was then secured using the same tape, it doesn't move, full stop.
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Again...is there a way to fasten or fixate the radiator to the TJ07 by screwing it down into the preexisting screwholes right above where the rad would be installed like on the video I posted earlier?

Here are the standoffs I have access to:http://www.aquatuning.at/index.php/l...n/cPath/25_945
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Again...is there a way to fasten or fixate the radiator to the TJ07 by screwing it down into the preexisting screwholes right above where the rad would be installed like on the video I posted earlier?

Here are the standoffs I have access to:http://www.aquatuning.at/index.php/l...n/cPath/25_945
Like I said, some stands do use existing screw holes. Most don't however. Drilling holes is always better because you can pick the exact location to place the radiator.
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Why don't you just get a piece of wood and screw that down to the HDD mount holes and then put some L brackets on it and screw the rad to there? I was considering doing that for a while before I realized I really don't even need to screw the rad down to anything...
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