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If you notice they said, "Current B1 stepping parts are easily hitting 3.8GHz which is what the high end SKU may actually ship at (with turbo support up to 4.2GHz)." Now if I recall the whole reason we're waiting is because there has been complications with B0/B1 stepping which means they'll probably move to B2/B3 (we can only hope) which means they're only gonna get faster.
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Your not getting what I'm getting at. I'm saying that core vs core they are probably equal, but I feel that because of software BD will have the edge because of it's ability to reallocate resources an it's higher speed memory controller. What I meant is since mutlicore software is still rare that it's going to be the little things that make the difference in the BD vs i7 debate. Like reallocate-able resources and a 1866Mhz memory controller. That's why I bought 1866Mhz DIMMs so that i could get full use of that controller.
Those resources are shared between two cores. In a single threaded situation there's no way that would provide a performance boost over a single core that utilizes its own resources.
post #163 of 195
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If you notice they said, "Current B1 stepping parts are easily hitting 3.8GHz which is what the high end SKU may actually ship at (with turbo support up to 4.2GHz)." Now if I recall the whole reason we're waiting is because there has been complications with B0/B1 stepping which means they'll probably move to B2/B3 (we can only hope) which means they're only gonna get faster.
B2 for 8130P
C0 for 8150P.

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Those resources are shared between two cores. In a single threaded situation there's no way that would provide a performance boost over a single core that utilizes its own resources.
They're shared, but I would imagine they will pack it with enough cache that individually they each can equal have an amount equal to the i7.

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B2 for 8130P
C0 for 8150P.

where's that from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_%28processor%29

Wait they changed it on me when did this happen.
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They're shared, but I would imagine they will pack it with enough cache that individually they each can equal have an amount equal to the i7.
Nope, JF-AMD has already stated that performance of a "module", ie 2 cores sharing resources will be a certain percentage of the performance of 2 fully independant cores.
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cause there was supposed to be a FX-8130P (3.8), FX-8150P (4.0), and a FX-8170P (4.2). Sorry ya'll they went and change on me.

Do you think that since they're delaying the release well into Q3 that they'll also release the FX-8170P at the same time or do you think it'll get pushed back too?

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Do you think that since they're delaying the release well into Q3 that they'll also release the FX-8170P at the same time or do you think it'll get pushed back too?
I meant FX-8150P my bad

Also since they're saying the base FX model will be $320 what do you think the top model will cost?
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I'm pretty sure that modules do not share any resources other than the 128-bit Floating Point Modules when they need a 256-bit one.

The OS can schedule a thread to each one of the individual 2 cores in each "module."

It's been stated many times that a "module" is just an internal AMD term for 2 integer cores and 2 128-bit floating point modules that CAN work together. Realistically, they shouldn't have even released the term "module" as it just created confusion.
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It's been stated many times that a "module" is just an internal AMD term for 2 integer cores and 2 128-bit floating point modules that CAN work together. Realistically, they shouldn't have even released the term "module" as it just created confusion.
Yeah it really has led to so much confusion, it's so much easier to simply think if it as simply a 4/6/8 core CPU. I guess JF-AMD said they will market cores not modules though, so I wonder how the module thing was perpetuated to such a great extent.
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I'm pretty sure that modules do not share any resources other than the 128-bit Floating Point Modules when they need a 256-bit one.

The OS can schedule a thread to each one of the individual 2 cores in each "module."

It's been stated many times that a "module" is just an internal AMD term for 2 integer cores and 2 128-bit floating point modules that CAN work together. Realistically, they shouldn't have even released the term "module" as it just created confusion.
From what I've seen the only thing the modules don't share is L1 Cache. They share L2, L3.

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Yeah it really has led to so much confusion, it's so much easier to simply think if it as simply a 4/6/8 core CPU. I guess JF-AMD said they will market cores not modules though, so I wonder how the module thing was perpetuated to such a great extent.
Well they had to call it something. They couldn't use "Hyper Threading 2.0" lol
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