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If you took four cores out of a zambezi you'd have ~95% of the total silicon space. So implementing bulldozer and adding additional cores is just as efficient as adding HT from a silicon perspective. But cores scale way better than HT.
I think this is what lots of people are forgetting when they yell "AMD NEEDS 8 CORES TO BEAT INTEL'S 4 ?!!!?!?!?!??!/!? OMG THEY SUX"
    
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I think this is what lots of people are forgetting when they yell "AMD NEEDS 8 CORES TO BEAT INTEL'S 4 ?!!!?!?!?!??!/!? OMG THEY SUX"
idk why everybody says this its still like intel having 8 cores since they are running 8 threads but they have the arch that AMD doesnt that they only need the 4 cores
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cant wait for BD. i hope they come out with a AM3 BD like they came out with the phII 940 for AM2+!
They won't.
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idk why everybody says this its still like intel having 8 cores since they are running 8 threads but they have the arch that AMD doesnt that they only need the 4 cores
It's simply two different design philosophies. You can't say one is better than the other until benchmarks and performance figures see the light of day. And no, Intel's architecture is not more efficient. HT produces heat. Lots of it.
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People need to understand Bulldozer it not a plain 8 core CPU.



AMD: 4 modules/8 integer cores

Intel: 4 cores/8 threads

AMDs approach is very efficient in terms of die space seeing you add actual cores,4 more cores by only increasing total die space by 5%.
Edited by A Russian :D - 1/14/11 at 2:46pm
    
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They won't.

It's simply two different design philosophies. You can't say one is better than the other until benchmarks and performance figures see the light of day. And no, Intel's architecture is not more efficient. HT produces heat. Lots of it.
obviously its better then what AMD has out on the market atm and if theres heat there is heat that doesnt make the product not as good
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obviously its better then what AMD has out on the market atm and if theres heat there is heat that doesnt make the product not as good
Actually, it does...The heat put out by HT could possibly have been used to fit something else that would have improved performance more.

And the more heat, the higher temperatures...And I'm pretty sure anyone with half a brain realizes that it means OCs won't go as high.
    
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Im hope that bulldozers new design will Be more efficient in terms of heat and performance per clock.
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Actually, it does...The heat put out by HT could possibly have been used to fit something else that would have improved performance more.

And the more heat, the higher temperatures...And I'm pretty sure anyone with half a brain realizes that it means OCs won't go as high.
so as of right now your saying that AMD is top dog in the CPU performance? and since they can handle more heat then the AMD can so what matters?
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so as of right now your saying that AMD is top dog in the CPU performance? and since they can handle more heat then the AMD can so what matters?
...What?

I said HT is inefficient for heat, especially considering some workloads don't scale well on HT and that if they didn't use HT then something else could have been fitted without having to worry about the heat envelope?
    
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I'm sure Bulldozer's multi threading approach is more efficient and effective than Hyper-Threading but I hope their cores are as fast as Intel's Core i5 750/760 clock for clock or faster.
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