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Jailbreaking the iPhone allows "homebrew" software too. It's allows you to run Cydia where u can install third-party software that didn't make it into Apple's censorship. But piracy is also what people use jailbreaking for. Honestly guys, how many of you who own a iPhone jailbreak your phone and never installed cracked IPA or .APP application? But these cracked applications are not issued by the Dev-Team, but rather by another group out there. But does this mean that Apple would sue the Dev-Team for releasing iPhone jailbreaking software, which includes Comex, MuscleNerd etc. for allowing people to install cracked applications?

Just because the actions of Geohot allowed the possibility of Piracy doesn't mean that Geohot included game "cracking codes" and all in his Jailbreak.

And talking about Jailbreaking PS3, it's been out for quite some time for at least 4-5 months, google PS3Jailbreak yourself, this already allowed running "backup" games through your hard drive with a "USB drive modchip" plugged in before Geohot even release his code.

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One more thing on the side line, before buying the PS3, Sony didn't make you read the EULA, they sold it before u read the EULA and it was also possible for u to purchase a PS3 without agreeing to the EULA or use your PS3 without accepting the EULA.

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Are you also entitled to remove sony's embedded operating system or erase the firmware?

Overall all these arguments and proceedings make me abstain from new consoles.plus i despise online gaming. I prefer to have the opponent beside me so i can swear at will.

Consoles are more popular in the internet age, yet control is so tight.


The irony is that you can run linux legally on ps2 with an external hard drive,yet it was removed from ps3

A reason why the dreamcast was ahead of its time...
What people are doing aren't removing the OS completely, they are only changing part of the original firmware, look at the size of the files, PS3 OS3.55 is 170MB while the Jailbreak file is approx 60KB? this means that it's less than 0.04% of the original size of the firmware. This is what the iPhone jailbreak does too, DCMA made jailbreaking the iPhone legit as only a small portion of the original software was edited, as not the whole firmware was rewritten differently.
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I don't think it is up to you to decide what should be in a system that you neither manufactured, nor programmed. This is Sony property regardless of our opinions on what should be on there.

He's just another hacker looking for justification.
You might find this concept strange, but I like owning things that I pay for, and doing whatever I want with the things that I own (so long as that doesn't affect other people).
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You might find this concept strange, but I like owning things that I pay for, and doing whatever I want with the things that I own (so long as that doesn't affect other people).
You countered your own point. The way geohot went about this did affect other people.

Geohots issue is that he released reverse engineered ip to the public. I don't think that is okay. He didn't just do it to his own system and that was it.
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You countered your own point. The way geohot went about this did affect other people.

Geohots issue is that he released reverse engineered ip to the public. I don't think that is okay. He didn't just do it to his own system and that was it.
Really? Hasn't affected me whatsoever. He's offered up something that allows you to do what you want with the hardware you own. He hasn't affected you, personally, in any way. It's not like he's forcing anyone to use it.

I'm talking about things like not running people over with the car I own, or shooting somebody with the gun I own, etc.
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Go Sony!
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DAMN YOU COMCAST!!!!!!!!!!!

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Really? Hasn't affected me whatsoever. He's offered up something that allows you to do what you want with the hardware you own. He hasn't affected you, personally, in any way. It's not like he's forcing anyone to use it.

I'm talking about things like not running people over with the car I own, or shooting somebody with the gun I own, etc.
The console is now totally open for hacking aka cheating in online games. PS3 was the closest-to-PC-gaming experience one can have without actually going the way of a gaming PC. Pretty sure the flame for online PS3 gaming will soon fade away.
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The console is now totally open for hacking aka cheating in online games.
PC has always been this way, there are ways to counter the cheating. But yes, that part does suck.
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