Originally Posted by kppanic
If you look at fail0verflow's video, they did not:
2. Disable; or
their encryption or security. From the looks of it, Sony failed at designing and coding. That is just like going into a math exam and the teachers accidentally put the answers out along with the questions. They may VOID the validity of the answers given by the students on the grounds that the students may or may not have gotten the answers without the "answers" but they simply cannot hold the students accountable for "cheating." The students did not bypass, disable, circumvent, or certainly "cheated" to get the right answers.
By your logic, I guess it would be totally fine if a thief walks in through your front door that you locked. Sony had security preventing something from happening. Geo found a way to get past that security, just like a thief would get past your lock.
Sony didn't accidentally give out the answer to their encryption. It took years for anyone to find the answer. Completely different example you're throwing there where the teacher accidentally put all the answers with the questions.
Originally Posted by Twinnuke
You cannot buy a silencer or marijuana without a license. You can however buy a ps3. If you buy a car and modify it to have more horse power and release how to do it you wont get sued. Why does sony have the right to sue geohot?
When you buy a car, you don't make an agreement that says you can't modify it. When you buy a PS3, you do.
Originally Posted by supaspoon
You can dictate that they have to walk your dog twice a week in the eula too, doesn't make it legal or illegal.
Just because it's in an EULA doesn't make it the law. If an eula says you have to murder your sister prior to using the product would you return it to the store? What matters is the actual law, if the content of an eula doesn't coincide with what the law dictates, then it is irrelevant.
You're absolutely correct. You can't put something in a terms of agreement if it constitutes a violation of rights. You can't say "by agreeing to these terms, we have the right to run in and kill your entire family at any moment we please," as that is an illegal notion. The PS3's terms of agreements only state that you can't mess with their intellectual property, which is a completely legitimate claim protecting their intellectual property rights.Edited by Stealth Pyros - 1/14/11 at 8:54am