Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD Motherboards › replacing mobo: help.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

replacing mobo: help.

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
I recently purchased a gtx 460 and feeling that my cpu is bottle necking the mess out of it.

I want a new cpu but seeing as how my mobo is a little old and it came in a pre-build Gateway I'm scared of upgrading and i got a few questions. As of now I cannot overclock due to locked bios.

I would like to get a new mobo and cpu without replacing much, such as my ram.

Here are the specs to the pre-build gateway

http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/DX42...5576Rcl2.shtml


Everything is the same other than the GPU and PSU.

I was thinking of getthing one of these mobos

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130275

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128455

and one of these cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103885

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103912




Also how exactly would i know if my ram is compatible with the mobos?

Im also aware that my windows OS might not work with the new mobos as well that they might not work with gateways case.

I am trying to keep the cost at about 200 and have a cpu that is just about right for my new GTX 460 (768mb version)



Thanks
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 14
I think you may need an mATX board to fit that case.
Someone correct me if I,m wrong.

Gyro
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ph IIx4 955 @ 3.2 Asus M2N32-sli dlx Asus GTX 460 1gb DirectCU MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
4x2gb OCZ ddr2 1066 plats seagate 320gb sata lg supermulti dvd WIN 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
acer p221w ms SS ST75F-P 750w CM 690modded w/KazeMaster pro 
Mouse
ms intellimouse explorer3.0 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ph IIx4 955 @ 3.2 Asus M2N32-sli dlx Asus GTX 460 1gb DirectCU MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
4x2gb OCZ ddr2 1066 plats seagate 320gb sata lg supermulti dvd WIN 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
acer p221w ms SS ST75F-P 750w CM 690modded w/KazeMaster pro 
Mouse
ms intellimouse explorer3.0 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Yea i believe your right.

The second one is micro though.
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 14
To be honest either of those upgrades according to what you have on your sig rig will not get rid of the so called bottle neck you think you are experiencing.

You may want to consider waiting just a bit for the amd bulldozer release and those will definitely be worth the wait and time.

The cpu you choose are subpar and when compared at stock performance to your current one it would be an upgrade but a downgrade. The motherboard choices are ok... but only awaiting their end of shelf life in a few months.
Casmatic
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k ASRock Z77 Extreme4  PNY GeForce GTX 1080 PNY XLR8 16gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
samsung 850 Seagate 5tb LITE-ON Black 12X Blu-ray Scythe Mugen 5 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 ASUS VE258Q TeamWolf Zhuque + (Zealios switches) Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Cooler Master 690 II Advance G900 Corsair - MM300 Sound Blaster E5  
Other
Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme 
  hide details  
Reply
Casmatic
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770k ASRock Z77 Extreme4  PNY GeForce GTX 1080 PNY XLR8 16gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
samsung 850 Seagate 5tb LITE-ON Black 12X Blu-ray Scythe Mugen 5 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 ASUS VE258Q TeamWolf Zhuque + (Zealios switches) Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Cooler Master 690 II Advance G900 Corsair - MM300 Sound Blaster E5  
Other
Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 14
It's also ddr3.

Here are some mATX ddr2 boards.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=.

Not any better than you are running now.
Unless you go with ddr3 too.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e=&srchInDesc=.giving you more options.

Gyro
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ph IIx4 955 @ 3.2 Asus M2N32-sli dlx Asus GTX 460 1gb DirectCU MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
4x2gb OCZ ddr2 1066 plats seagate 320gb sata lg supermulti dvd WIN 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
acer p221w ms SS ST75F-P 750w CM 690modded w/KazeMaster pro 
Mouse
ms intellimouse explorer3.0 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ph IIx4 955 @ 3.2 Asus M2N32-sli dlx Asus GTX 460 1gb DirectCU MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
4x2gb OCZ ddr2 1066 plats seagate 320gb sata lg supermulti dvd WIN 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
acer p221w ms SS ST75F-P 750w CM 690modded w/KazeMaster pro 
Mouse
ms intellimouse explorer3.0 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
So what exactly is holding my 460? And the only time it struggles is in cpu intensive games. Others than that it is beast.

Would u guys sugest a new mobo only then buy a new heatsink and overclock my CPU?
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 14
Have you checked to see if your mb has a bios update that might support newer cpu's?

Gyro
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ph IIx4 955 @ 3.2 Asus M2N32-sli dlx Asus GTX 460 1gb DirectCU MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
4x2gb OCZ ddr2 1066 plats seagate 320gb sata lg supermulti dvd WIN 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
acer p221w ms SS ST75F-P 750w CM 690modded w/KazeMaster pro 
Mouse
ms intellimouse explorer3.0 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Ph IIx4 955 @ 3.2 Asus M2N32-sli dlx Asus GTX 460 1gb DirectCU MSI GTX 460 1gb Cyclone 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
4x2gb OCZ ddr2 1066 plats seagate 320gb sata lg supermulti dvd WIN 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
acer p221w ms SS ST75F-P 750w CM 690modded w/KazeMaster pro 
Mouse
ms intellimouse explorer3.0 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
there was a new update in 2008 lol.

but even so, there is only one other cpu that is am2+ and its 125w not 95w.

Not sure if that makes a difference.

which would be this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103471

I'm new when it comes to cpu and motherboards so if i'm way off let me know >_>.
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 14
If you have to use your memory (which is DDR2) that also means you have to use an AM2/AM2+ processor. If that is the case, the 940BE is the way to go. I have one. Love it. Super fast. Personally, the way my system runs (Blue Beast) I see absolutely no reason to upgrade to AM3/DDR3. The 940 will NOT bottle neck the 460! My goodness. I have mine oc'd to 3.7GHz and I'm running a GTX560 SuperClocked edition. It is a sweet set up.

So, that all said, if you don't plan on SLI'ing your 460 you have a lot of choices in mobos that only have one PCI-E x16 slot. If you want one with two of those... The look just got harder. Trust me, I've been searching this out, too and AM2+/DDR2 boards that are Crossfire/SLI compatible are really hard to find. It's "old" so manufacturers stop making them. If my mobo ever craps out I might be forced to upgrade to DDR3/AM3 if I want the option of SLI'ing my 570. When you look at boards there are two things to look for:
1.) It must be AM2+/DDR2 compatible.
2.) Try to find one that does NOT have onboard graphics. They probably don't exist, though. I like Gigabyte/ASUS boards. For the budget minded I like Biostar. I've never had a prob. with one of those. I try to stay away from MSi.

TG
Mr. Blue
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 2600K; 4.6GHz @ 1.385V MSI Z68A-GD65 B3 EVGA GeForce GTX 680 FTW MSi GTX 680 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G. Skill Sniper 4GBx4 DDR3 800MHz Crucial M4 SSD WD 1600AAJS Caviar SE WD 32000AAKS Caviar Blue, 16MB Cache 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H50 CPU Water Cooling, 2 120mm fans in ... W10 ACER HG270HU Logitech G910 Orion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec High Current Gamer 850W Apevia Mid-tower Logitech G500 Creative A220 2.1 Speaker System; Sennheiser HD... 
Other
ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA  
  hide details  
Reply
Mr. Blue
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7 2600K; 4.6GHz @ 1.385V MSI Z68A-GD65 B3 EVGA GeForce GTX 680 FTW MSi GTX 680 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G. Skill Sniper 4GBx4 DDR3 800MHz Crucial M4 SSD WD 1600AAJS Caviar SE WD 32000AAKS Caviar Blue, 16MB Cache 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H50 CPU Water Cooling, 2 120mm fans in ... W10 ACER HG270HU Logitech G910 Orion Spark 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec High Current Gamer 850W Apevia Mid-tower Logitech G500 Creative A220 2.1 Speaker System; Sennheiser HD... 
Other
ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA  
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by croSSeduP View Post
If you have to use your memory (which is DDR2) that also means you have to use an AM2/AM2+ processor. If that is the case, the 940BE is the way to go. I have one. Love it. Super fast. Personally, the way my system runs (Blue Beast) I see absolutely no reason to upgrade to AM3/DDR3. The 940 will NOT bottle neck the 460! My goodness. I have mine oc'd to 3.7GHz and I'm running a GTX560 SuperClocked edition. It is a sweet set up.

So, that all said, if you don't plan on SLI'ing your 460 you have a lot of choices in mobos that only have one PCI-E x16 slot. If you want one with two of those... The look just got harder. Trust me, I've been searching this out, too and AM2+/DDR2 boards that are Crossfire/SLI compatible are really hard to find. It's "old" so manufacturers stop making them. If my mobo ever craps out I might be forced to upgrade to DDR3/AM3 if I want the option of SLI'ing my 570. When you look at boards there are two things to look for:
1.) It must be AM2+/DDR2 compatible.
2.) Try to find one that does NOT have onboard graphics. They probably don't exist, though. I like Gigabyte/ASUS boards. For the budget minded I like Biostar. I've never had a prob. with one of those. I try to stay away from MSi.

TG
Ohhh I see what you guys are saying now.

Thanks for clearing that up for me croSSeduP.

well the simplest way would be ideal for me. I will eventually build a new pc from scratch and just need something to make full use of my 460.

So if I just buy the Phenom II X4 940BE, wouldn't it be a problem?

will my mobo support 125w? also is there a way to see if a bios update added support for the cpu?

Ive seen other threads of people with this same mobo from gateway who have called gateway support and been told that they have no idea what is supported.

Ive also heard of people putting in a new cpu with no problems.
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
My Comp
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
MD Phenom™ 9550 processor, 64-bit quad core proces AMD RS780 ASUS GTX460 6 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
640 GB 7200 RPM SATA II, 1Tb external 18X DVD ±R/RW super multi drive featuring Labelfla Windows Vista™ Home Premium (64-bit) Gateway FHD2302bmidgz Black 23" 
Power
650 watt 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD Motherboards
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD Motherboards › replacing mobo: help.