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My next upgrade, will be ivy. Lets go 22nm, you're mine!
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My next upgrade, will be ivy. Lets go 22nm, you're mine!
You should buy products from a company that is as aggressive as Intel! Seriously, how can you tolerate Intel's antics, don't you think its a bit immoral to support a company like that?
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Silicon as we know it is coming to a close shortly after this.
As Mr. Moore Predicts, Silicon is dead, Make room for Graphene people.
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-n...b-carbon-chips
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Sounds good, 22nm sounds nice.
    
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You should buy products from a company that is as aggressive as Intel! Seriously, how can you tolerate Intel's antics, don't you think its a bit immoral to support a company like that?
Ill have what he's having bartender!!
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Ill have what he's having bartender!!
Ya what a nut. I bet he buys gas at enron stations. The loser.
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So even then, If i'm understanding your post right, It will further limit our ability to reach ungodly oc's IE 7ghz.... Or am I off?
Not exactly. It all depends on Intel's engineers to figure out the right sauce. Smaller transistors generally need less juice to drive them, so less voltage generally means less leakage, so hopefully lower temps and higher stability, so hopefully higher OCs.
    
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Because look at 1366. Ivy Bridge is the replacement. A 1366 mobo + CPU is still $400+ to this day.
iirc There's 32nm (Sandy Bridge) CPUs for 1356 and 2011, Ivy Bridge is the 22nm shrink of Sandy Bridge.

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Originally Posted by Microtom View Post
Isn't intel moving to bigger wafers? Bigger waffers + smaller cpu = less expensive imo...
More profit margin to Intel more like.

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More AMD stomping. Inb4 lol Intel fanboy. I've swapped between AMD and Intel between each build. Sorry, AMD just can't do it anymore.
Because Bulldozer looks like the original Celeron, right?

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Is it not ture the Smaller we go the Less volts we can add... And the less volts = lower oc's?
Depends on the process type, AMD 45nm can take 1.55v but Intel 45nm usually degrades at 1.55v, plus the lower temperatures help a lot.

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Intel rule again! At this point, AMD cant catch up. AMD should stick with graphic card before nvidia take a bigger leap.
Intel had to go to 32nm to get a Hexacore out, AMD managed to do it on 32nm and that's without the modules in Bulldozer...People write AMD off but seem to have no idea how promising Bulldozer seems, plus it's pretty much been a constant since K6 vs Pentium that AMD has better engineers than Intel, but Intel has much more R&D budget and far better production facilities, a perfect example of this is Pentium 4 vs Athlon64 and the recovery AMD made with Phenom II, sure it doesn't kill or match a Core i7 in a lot of areas, but the real world difference is tiny and considering that AMD sat on Athlon64 for too long and had to rush phenom I and II out...well, not many companies could make that recovery.

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This even proves now that they are working on and have been working on this for a while now. Waiting to kill bulldozer i bet
Eh, considering this is a shrink of SB and not the new arch (iirc), the performance increases should be tiny...

Unless Intel changed the Tick Tock thing.

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Ill have what he's having bartender!!
Intel treat their employees like crap (well documented), they paid off Dell, HP and other OEMs not to use AMD CPUs when AMD was beating them (Athlon64), the Intel compiler adds code that on purposely makes AMD and VIA run slower (They could add something to check for the instructions and use the codepaths for said instructions, but instead they check for the vendor ID and make Intel run the fastest one)
    
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Ill have what he's having bartender!!
Well of course I'm exaggerating a bit but no one likes to support a company with dirty tactics!

I guess it comes with the territory.

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Ya what a nut. I bet he buys gas at enron stations. The loser.
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post #50 of 78
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Intel rule again! At this point, AMD cant catch up. AMD should stick with graphic card before nvidia take a bigger leap.
Exactly! And with AMD out of the market, Intel has no-one competing with to motivate them to keep their price down, and they can charge you through the roof! Yes, wonderful plan.
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