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How come you can buy distros on CDs then? Are you technically paying for the postage + disc?
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
Cedega exploited a flaw in Wine's licensing agreement to basically steal the hard work and effort of the Wine community.
The Wright Brothers exploited a flaw in Professor Langley's design. I'm glad they did. I contend that ultimately TransGaming improved the Linux community and even Wine itself. For a time they definitely improved my experience of it and what is possible. That wasn't the point. The point was that given a set of packages you care about and can get no other or no easy way, it is worth some coinage.
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post #33 of 55
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The Wright Brothers exploited a flaw in Professor Langley's design. I'm glad they did. I contend that ultimately TransGaming improved the Linux community and even Wine itself. For a time they definitely improved my experience of it and what is possible. That wasn't the point. The point was that given a set of packages you care about and can get no other or no easy way, it is worth some coinage.
Yeah but they said they would help out the Wine community with some major fixes, which never happened. Wine was set back years because of this, because they thought TransGaming would hold up on their end. Eventually they didn't and Wine started hard progression again, eventually catching up to TransGaming. Which if they would have helped Wine out we would have far better support, which is why a lot of people started getting angry at TransGaming.
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post #34 of 55
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How come you can buy distros on CDs then? Are you technically paying for the postage + disc?
Pretty much yeah.

Although you can get certain distros mailed for free.
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post #35 of 55
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How come you can buy distros on CDs then? Are you technically paying for the postage + disc?
You could be paying for anything. You could be funding a CEO's annual bonus increase. Does it really matter what you're paying for? The GNU GPL permits you to charge anything for a piece of Free software for any reason, on the proviso that you provide the source either with the binaries or upon request. The only time a restriction on a fee exists is when the source is not distributed directly with the binaries. The source must be provided at an equal or lesser cost than the binaries, else it is considered a financial restriction of users' access to the source and a violation of the GPL.
    
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post #36 of 55
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Cedega exploited a flaw in Wine's licensing agreement to basically steal the hard work and effort of the Wine community.
Wine used to be under the MIT license, one of the most 'open' open source licenses, which goes like this -

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Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software,
and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN
THE SOFTWARE.
(my emphasis)

So, it wasn't a loophole, the MIT license allows you to take open source code and distribute it in a commercial product as long as you redistribute the license with it. Chunks of the Windows TCP/IP stack (at least at one point) were taken from BSD, as are large chunks of Mac OS X.
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you wouldnt get your moneys worth
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post #38 of 55
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you wouldnt get your moneys worth
Gee! Sixty-eight posts and 1 rep. I wonder why? Plonk!
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you wouldnt get your moneys worth
Funny, I find that quite regularly when I buy MS products.
    
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Funny, I find that quite regularly when I buy MS products.
ROFL. I swear, so far Win7 has been the only one I would consider paying for and the irony is that I got it for free. I guess that's MS's way of paying me back for dealing with ME and the first four months of Vista.
     
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