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I bought Mandrake 6.0 in CompUSA in the mid-late 90s.

If I ever get into Linux again, I'd probably be willing to buy a physical copy just to have some tangible, paper, documentation.

I went to the Goodwill Computer Works in Austin, and found that last year.
Cost me $4.
I just had to see what it looked like!
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post #42 of 55
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Funny, I find that quite regularly when I buy MS products.
With the amount of frustration you often get with them, I think they've well and truly paid for themselves.
    
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Can we not turn this into a Lin vs Win debate?
    
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post #44 of 55
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It can be sold in stores, it's just that the price has to be the price of the disc Linux is written to and that is all. Essentially you're paying for the ease of having it burned to a disc for you.

You'd only ever see them in online shops or in the small computer shops run by Linux enthusiasts. Companies like Best Buy run their employees through pro-Microsoft campaigns that push straight out lies about other OSs.
this is rly kinda true. online learnings, mostly ms expert zone (go figure) basicly say all ms products are vastly superior to anything else and you suck if u dont use/recommended them to everyone.
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Well that's no different to many universities which push Microsoft's software as well, whether it is the right tool for the job or not.
    
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I find ubuntu to be a cinch, and even converted novice computer users to Lubuntu when they have slower pc's....I never hear them having problems and I love it.

But why is a mainstream linux distro not sold in stores? Say for instance a boxed copy of ubuntu with a manual and disc and a year of free customer support?
They are. I remember when I first got into Linux (like in 2002 or so), I did not have broadband at home, so I went to my local bookstore (similar to Barnes and Noble, but local) and picked up a boxed copy of Red Hat. They also had SuSE, Mandrake and a couple of others. They came in a box with a manual and a year support (or something like that). The editions that came in the box were different from the downloadable version in that they had extra software included and support.

More recently I have heard Best Buy is selling Ubuntu. Of course there is no reason to buy Ubuntu when you can just download it, but it's still there for sale. Ubuntu does not have a "corporate" edition like some others so there is no advantage to buying the boxed version.
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Originally Posted by savagebunny View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_an...ource_software


Stores or company's can't legally sell Linux itself, but can sell support for Linux, add-on packages from the manufacture
Well, that's not really true. You can sell Linux all you want, but you must abide by the license it is licensed under (GPL). The main requirement is you must make every line of source code available (you can put your own non-open apps on top of it if you want, but you must keep prior GPL code open). You don't have to give support in order to sell it, AFAIK.
Edited by thiussat - 1/22/11 at 10:35am
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Well, that's not really true. You can sell Linux all you want, but you must abide by the license it is licensed under (GPL). The main requirement is you must make every line of source code available (you can put your own non-open apps on top of it if you want, but you must keep prior GPL code open). You don't have to give support in order to sell it, AFAIK.
And actually, they can mark it up to $5-$15 for the disc and say it's production costs. They don't even have to give it back to Ubuntu either. You see that everwhere online, buy pre-burned *buntu DVD.


All they do is charge you for the service of DVD production, the software is free. Although Ubuntu could change the GPL, they might even have it set this way, and sell the DVD themselves charging you the same and getting the full profit under services + direct sales. It's good for them, you get a hard copy DVD that's guaranteed to work. Win win for everyone.

It's just a lot of people think "oh, I'll just download it and save the money". And that works, I'm not saying you shouldn't. Having a hard copy + product case is nice for archiving in case of an emergency. I can't tell you how many DVDs I've had fail on me, or burns go bad, due to something miscellaneous.

The thing for me is, I have the knowledge and tools (usb flash drive!) to recover from just about any mistake. I don't need a hard backup, and many on here don't either. I'm betting if a lot of people had the ability to just purchase it for $5-$10 in stores they would. Just to try it out, cause they don't want to download it and do the burning disc hastle. Yes, I'm being serious too. People don't like to download and burn things. Even more so in the US due to this whole copyright scare. That and some people can't download it, so they say "I'd try it if I didn't have to download 4G+". If it was in stores for cheap they probably would try it.

Marketing sucks, corporate politics suck, but we just have to deal with it.
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In simple terms, it's a free software so it's actually illegal to try and sell a free software to make your own money.
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And actually, they can mark it up to $5-$15 for the disc and say it's production costs. They don't even have to give it back to Ubuntu either. You see that everwhere online, buy pre-burned *buntu DVD.

Amazon.com: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, 4-disks DVD Set: Software

All they do is charge you for the service of DVD production, the software is free. Although Ubuntu could change the GPL, they might even have it set this way, and sell the DVD themselves charging you the same and getting the full profit under services + direct sales. It's good for them, you get a hard copy DVD that's guaranteed to work. Win win for everyone.

It's just a lot of people think "oh, I'll just download it and save the money". And that works, I'm not saying you shouldn't. Having a hard copy + product case is nice for archiving in case of an emergency. I can't tell you how many DVDs I've had fail on me, or burns go bad, due to something miscellaneous.

The thing for me is, I have the knowledge and tools (usb flash drive!) to recover from just about any mistake. I don't need a hard backup, and many on here don't either. I'm betting if a lot of people had the ability to just purchase it for $5-$10 in stores they would. Just to try it out, cause they don't want to download it and do the burning disc hastle. Yes, I'm being serious too. People don't like to download and burn things. Even more so in the US due to this whole copyright scare. That and some people can't download it, so they say "I'd try it if I didn't have to download 4G+". If it was in stores for cheap they probably would try it.

Marketing sucks, corporate politics suck, but we just have to deal with it.
I've heard a few people wanting printed Linux discs to make a professional appearance when presenting Linux to new users.

I'd wonder if users who are too scared to download anything would be brave enough to load a completely new OS though.
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