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As soon as I read the title, the first thing that popped into my head was Saw.
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As soon as I read the title, the first thing that popped into my head was Saw.
I want to play a little game...
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you never know. it's Intel. they could come out with something amazing...

i don't think it's a wise idea to write off Intel when it comes to CPU's because when they want a market they can be pretty ruthless...
When they want a piece of that market, they but it.
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it will be like a new revised pacman
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you never know. it's Intel. they could come out with something amazing...

i don't think it's a wise idea to write off Intel when it comes to CPU's because when they want a market they can be pretty ruthless...
It'll be pretty tough for x86 to become on par with ARM for energy consumption. Intel has the technological edge with much newer process nodes but they can't compete with ARM in the intrinsic architecture. It's more important for the efficient architecture because if TSMC or GF got their act together and releases a competitive 28nm node, then Intel loses their edge. Unless Intel does some drastic changes to x86, the architecture just can't compete in energy.

Yes, Intel can be ruthless, but is that in actual developments or illegal tactics?
    
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But I think what he was saying is that if it performs as well as x86 and Windows makes their next OS arm-compatible, then we might start seeing desktops running ARM in the future...

I have no comment on the matter, myself.
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Yep, that's what I meant. And they already demoed Windows 8 running on ARM.
So Windows runs on an ARM. You're still lacking 20 years of legacy code with x86 that people don't want to do without.

What incentive is there for software companies to recompile their massive programs to take "advantage" of ARMs power requirements?

Lets face it, productivity and gaming software means you have a high-end, high-power desktop where power consumption is least important. With that said, ARM's law power usage becomes negated.

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Originally Posted by Cheetos316 View Post
It'll be pretty tough for x86 to become on par with ARM for energy consumption. Intel has the technological edge with much newer process nodes but they can't compete with ARM in the intrinsic architecture. It's more important for the efficient architecture because if TSMC or GF got their act together and releases a competitive 28nm node, then Intel loses their edge. Unless Intel does some drastic changes to x86, the architecture just can't compete in energy.

Yes, Intel can be ruthless, but is that in actual developments or illegal tactics?
And it'll be pretty tough for ARM to compete with AMD and Intel in the high-performance computing space.(In fact, they aren't trying too. The only player trying to bring ARM up to HPC demands is Nvidia - a company with no processor experience is trying to beat experienced players at their own game with an architecture unintended to be used in anything other than low power devices!)

TSMC is slow compared to Intel and GF, but especially Intel since they are almost ready to ramp up production of the 22nm lithography... That's 22nm, a full half node ahead of TSMC and GF. So I don't see how Intel has anything to worry about when it comes to production.(Also, TSMC manufactures Atoms I believe.)

Though if Nvidia can get an ARM CPU to compete with AMD and Intel in the server space then I can only see this as a good thing since it means Nvidia will stay relevant when everyone was calling for their demise because they lacked a convergence technology plan unlike Intel and AMD with regards to APUs.
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I think they made some sort of real time emulation, because they demoed software like Office running on it.
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post #18 of 19
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Dey hatin--
The fact that they're competing against the most power efficient architecture around with a joke of a "CPU" makes me lol hard
That joke of a CPU according to Anand spanks any modern ARM processor in both power and performance.


We're talking about a corporation that does nothing but manufacture CPUs versus a handful of companies (Samsung, HTC, Apple etc...) that just manufacture cookie-cutter designs from ARM.
    
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post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by -iceblade^ View Post
you never know. it's Intel. they could come out with something amazing...
Or a university could beat them to it.
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