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My HDD is a generic seagate 320gb that was pulled out of a compaq a little over 3 years ago. I think it might be 7200rpm. Either way, this is sad. Can Anyone help me out? The SSD I own is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139415&cm_re=Kingston_64GB_SSDNow_V100_Series-_-20-139-415-_-Product

I'm pretty happy with the read speed but the write speed is not even close to advertised...
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I followed this tutorial yesterday http://www.overclock.net/ssd/664738-how-setup-ssd-boot-drive-secondary.html

And I'm about to try these two

http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/475114-howto-get-most-out-your-ssd.html

http://www.overclock.net/ssd/700470-tutorials-real-world-windows-7-ssd.html
Edited by thx1138 - 1/14/11 at 8:27pm
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You should probably revise your thread title to "In Writes", as the SSD completely outclasses your mechanical HDD in every other arena.

If your drive does not support TRIM, write speed will degrade over time depending on use.

Also, it's not going to make a substantial difference unless you're either
1) Constantly transferring files over a gigabit network which can provide >70 MB/sec
2) Unpacking large ZIP or RAR's from the SSD to the SSD.
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I recommend trying ATTO Disk Benchmark as it provides results that are more like "best case scenario" so that you can see if your drive is able to reach its full potential.

With benchmark tools like CrystalDiskBenchmark and AS SSD Benchmark, they provide more or less "worse case" scenarios because they test it really hard.

So please run ATTO and post a screenshot. But can you also open up AS SSD Benchmark and just post a screenshot of it? You don't even have to run it.
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post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by beers;12015663 
You should probably revise your thread title to "In Writes", as the SSD completely outclasses your mechanical HDD in every other arena.

If your drive does not support TRIM, write speed will degrade over time depending on use.

Also, it's not going to make a substantial difference unless you're either
1) Constantly transferring files over a gigabit network which can provide >70 MB/sec
2) Unpacking large ZIP or RAR's from the SSD to the SSD.

This ssd does support trim and I just got it in the mail last night. Do I need to trim on in bios or something? I just think it's pathetic that it's writing close to half it's advertised max...
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;12015723 
I recommend trying ATTO Disk Benchmark as it provides results that are more like "best case scenario" so that you can see if your drive is able to reach its full potential.

With benchmark tools like CrystalDiskBenchmark and AS SSD Benchmark, they provide more or less "worse case" scenarios because they test it really hard.

So please run ATTO and post a screenshot. But can you also open up AS SSD Benchmark and just post a screenshot of it? You don't even have to run it.

It's the only free benchmark I could find. I'm not filling out all that info just to dl atto and its not even freeware. But thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by thx1138;12015752 
Do I need to trim on in bios or something?
Make sure your SATA controller is in AHCI mode and you're using the 'msahci' driver. Otherwise, the TRIM commands aren't getting passed to the drive.
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post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by beers;12015766 
Make sure your SATA controller is in AHCI mode and you're using the 'msahci' driver. Otherwise, the TRIM commands aren't getting passed to the drive.

I did some research before and I was under the impression ahci isn't good for anything but hot swapping. So you're saying I should've enabled it when I was installing 7 last night? Ugh now am I going to have to do all this to get ahci working? http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thx1138;12015752 
This ssd does support trim and I just got it in the mail last night. Do I need to trim on in bios or something? I just think it's pathetic that it's writing close to half it's advertised max...



It's the only free benchmark I could find. I'm not filling out all that info just to dl atto and its not even freeware. But thanks for the info.
I don't know what you're talking about. ATTO Disk Benchmark is free, and that site I linked you to provides a free download. It sounds to me like you didn't click it.

So, here's a direct link: http://download1us.softpedia.com/dl/51f564786084dd6ba2bb5f05f60dd3a8/4d3124de/100145293/software/system/bench/bench32.zip

AS SSD Benchmark is free too. Here's a direct link to that:

http://www.alex-is.de/progs/AS%20SSD%20Benchmark.zip

Now please run ATTO Disk Benchmark and post a screenshot of the results. But I need it to be next to AS SSD Benchmark's window so I can see some information that it contains (you don't even have to run the benchmark).


Here's how to enable AHCI mode if Windows was installed in IDE mode:

Change from IDE to AHCI Mode after Installation

Information: AHCI stand for Advance Host Controller Interface. AHCI is a hardware mechanism that allows software to communicate with Serial ATA (SATA) devices (such as host bus adapters) that are designed to offer features not offered by Parallel ATA (PATA) controllers, such as:
  • Hot-Plugging
  • Native Command Queuing (NCQ) -might improve computer/system/hard disk responsiveness, especially in multi-tasking environment
You can read more about AHCI mode HERE

Instruction: There is one way to fix this, although you need to have knowledge of registry editing.
The detailed steps from Microsoft website are as follows:
  • Exit all Windows-based programs.
  • Press [Win] + R or take the RUN option from the start menu.
  • Now type regedit there and press Enter Key to open up the Registry Editor Window.
  • If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
  • Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\msahci
  • In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
IDE%20to%20AHCI.jpg
  • In the Value data box, type 0 [3 is default], and then click OK.
IDE%20to%20AHCI%20modify.jpg
  • On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
  • Restart your computer
  • Go to BIOS and enable AHCI, Save & Reboot
  • Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.

Alternatively

Just download this Reg File and double-click to implement AHCI on your Windows-based computer.
Just remember to do the BIOS switch as well when you reboot.


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Originally Posted by thx1138;12015613 
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Look at the 4K writes. The SSD is 13 times faster than your HDD. Stop looking at sequential writes. The only time you are doing heavy sequential writes are video editing or installing programs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables;12015852 
I don't know what you're talking about. ATTO Disk Benchmark is free, and that site I linked you to provides a free download. It sounds to me like you didn't click it.

redface.gif No sorry I glanced right over the link and searched google for atto. I appreciate your help and I really appreciate you posting that mini tutorial it looks comprehensive and I will do it as soon as I am done writing this re. And I will run the two benchmarks as well.

After work I am so tired and brain dead something that is supposed to be fun like setting up this ssd becomes tedious work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riou;12015867 
Look at the 4K writes. The SSD is 13 times faster than your HDD. Stop looking at sequential writes. The only time you are doing heavy sequential writes are video editing or installing programs.

Yeah.... I don't know, after spending the same amount of money I could have gotten a TB with I was expecting it to out perform my generic drive in every category. And is the advertised max not the sequential speed? Correct me if I am wrong...


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Unfortunately, it's easy for me to forget that many people are dead-tired at this time of day. redface.gif So, I apologize for all that.
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