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Do you have a link to show where it doesn't meet VRD12 spec?
it doesn't if it does it will advertise it under their site, it just says it's based on intel's VRD12 design or some bs. too bad gigabyte name their entry SLI board UD4 or else i would of brought it
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This. You just press the corners into the case until it pops in. Then you put the motherboard in the case and it lines up perfectly.

ASUS Q-shield is basically the same as the EVGA I/O shield.
except sometimes your mobo holes doesn't line up with your case holes and you have to PUSH and screw at the same time it's a POS...
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Do you have a link to show where it doesn't meet VRD12 spec?
I don't but that is what I was told, where does it say that?

What i do see as proof of lack of SVID is when you increase the multiplier that the stock VID doesn't change accordingly.

If you have an ASUS board set 45x multiplier keep vcore on auto and tell us what voltage it gives you, maybe you should try 43x there are reports of over volting. Every board has to abide by vrd 12 spec in certain ways, or else the processor doesn't work, but fulfilling the VRD12 spec would get your PWM Intel certified for VRD12, Interstill did and heavily advertises it, ASUS last i hear in early January hadn't received Intel approval.

For instance on GB boards all you have to do is set multiplier and the vcore slowly increases, on auto vcore give me 1.370 for 4.8ghz, and for my other chip its 1.360 for 4.8ghz, tow different chips two different VIDs for the same frequency shows that the motherboard isn't just applying the same voltage per clock, its actually talking to the CPU and finding the best vcore.

It is kind of like having your PSU be 80% efficient and not meeting 80 plus requirements, so you can't advertise with 80 plus certification.
Edited by Sin0822 - 1/15/11 at 6:55pm
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except sometimes your mobo holes doesn't line up with your case holes and you have to PUSH and screw at the same time it's a POS...
yea so you have to give it a tiny bit of pressure. Its not like the board is going to crumble from this. If it would they wouldnt make the shield that way. I have worked with many boards and that padding isnt unheard of from other board makers as well.
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I don't but that is what I was told, where does it say that?

What i do see as proof of lack of SVID is when you increase the multiplier that the stock VID doesn't change accordingly.

If you have an ASUS board set 45x multiplier keep vcore on auto and tell us what voltage it gives you, maybe you should try 43x there are reports of over volting. Every board has to abide by vrd 12 spec in certain ways, or else the processor doesn't work, but fulfilling the VRD12 spec would get your PWM Intel certified for VRD12, Interstill did and heavily advertises it, ASUS last i hear in early January hadn't received Intel approval.

For instance on GB boards all you have to do is set multiplier and the vcore slowly increases, on auto vcore give me 1.370 for 4.8ghz, and for my other chip its 1.360 for 4.8ghz, tow different chips two different VIDs for the same frequency shows that the motherboard isn't just applying the same voltage per clock, its actually talking to the CPU and finding the best vcore.

It is kind of like having your PSU be 80% efficient and not meeting 80 plus requirements, so you can't advertise with 80 plus certification.
That's interesting. The P8P67 PRO for my brothers build comes in on Monday / Tuesday so I will check on that.

They claim that on their product page: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=HMMvTCuBcZLfu2YL

In the paragraph about DIGI+ VRM. If they do have this issue I wonder if it would be fixable with a EFI update. It sounds like they are using a proprietary chip to handle the voltage adjustments ( supposed VRD 12 spec).

That is a good analogy about the 80+ PSU. Sort of odd that Asus hasn't gotten "official" certification.
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I don't but that is what I was told, where does it say that?

What i do see as proof of lack of SVID is when you increase the multiplier that the stock VID doesn't change accordingly.

If you have an ASUS board set 45x multiplier keep vcore on auto and tell us what voltage it gives you, maybe you should try 43x there are reports of over volting. Every board has to abide by vrd 12 spec in certain ways, or else the processor doesn't work, but fulfilling the VRD12 spec would get your PWM Intel certified for VRD12, Interstill did and heavily advertises it, ASUS last i hear in early January hadn't received Intel approval.

For instance on GB boards all you have to do is set multiplier and the vcore slowly increases, on auto vcore give me 1.370 for 4.8ghz, and for my other chip its 1.360 for 4.8ghz, tow different chips two different VIDs for the same frequency shows that the motherboard isn't just applying the same voltage per clock, its actually talking to the CPU and finding the best vcore.

It is kind of like having your PSU be 80% efficient and not meeting 80 plus requirements, so you can't advertise with 80 plus certification.
40x gives me ~1.25v, 45x gives me ~1.32v, currently at 103 blk/42x with ~1.3v, Asus board, auto voltage.
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Well, let's see, most people building a Sandy Bridge system aren't on a small budget, hence them not opting for Biostar or ASrock. If I weren't on a budget when I built my system 2 years ago, I'd of gone with ASUS or Gigabyte too. But Biostar is good, nothing against them. They're just budget brands at the end of the day.
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40x gives me ~1.25v, 45x gives me ~1.32v, currently at 103 blk/42x with ~1.3v, Asus board, auto voltage.
well that is good, because another guy stated that asus auto voltage almost killed his chip with 1.4v at 4.5ghz. Maybe they fixed it idk. THey use a Chil digital PWM that PWM has to be certified.

Also what changes, just the vcc under monitoring or the actual VID, does the actual VID value change from stock voltage to 1.32?
Edited by Sin0822 - 1/15/11 at 9:22pm
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yea so you have to give it a tiny bit of pressure. Its not like the board is going to crumble from this. If it would they wouldnt make the shield that way. I have worked with many boards and that padding isnt unheard of from other board makers as well.
for my nzxt case it wasn't "tiny pressure" i can bench 185 and i literally have to apply all my force to get it in, it's like 1 inch away from the mounting holes

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well that is good, because another guy stated that asus auto voltage almost killed his chip with 1.4v at 4.5ghz. Maybe they fixed it idk. THey use a Chil digital PWM that PWM has to be certified.

Also what changes, just the vcc under monitoring or the actual VID, does the actual VID value change from stock voltage to 1.32?

plz dont scare me sin, my vid changed when i just changed the multiplier to 46, vore from bios says 1.350 and that is with everything else auto. Might be like preset Voltage for each multiplier above 40?
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that is what i am trying to find out, the VID is supposed to change all the way to 1.52v with increase in clock from normal. I want to know if VID is changing or if only the reported vcc has changed. And then if the VID change is different on another chip with the same exact board.
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