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Poll Results: In light of EK's nickel failure, will you buy their blocks?

 
  • 39% (230)
    Yes, continue or consider using their blocks (copper or nickel)
  • 60% (354)
    No, I will look into other manufacturers.
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post #1041 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
OCN is probably 1/10 of 1% of EKs' consumer base. I'm sure there are a few people affected by this in every Enthusiast Forum. But it's probably as wide spread as it seems. I'm not saying that means we don't count, I just don't think that the issue is as big as we represent it to be. If nothing else these issues have prompted Eddy to become a member of OCN.

If you have issues with EK and Eddy, at least if nothing else please be respectful. I know that's sounds like I'm saying roll over and take it in the shorts, but I'm not. You can make your displeasure known without insulting people in the process. I let out a blue streak 100 miles long when I'm ticked off. But when I'm speaking to someone trying to get an issue resolved my better nature takes over until they take the first cheap shot. Then they're fair game.

Just please remember to be respectful. I for one am a proud member of OCN. I would hate to ruin it for the lot of you by showing my ass. Even when I'm in the right.

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Originally Posted by Angrybutcher View Post
You will need to take it apart to see. Basically you will see a rainbow look in the very early stages. As it progresses you will see pitting an copperish lines. In the late stages you will see obvious copper showing.
I have an ek nickel cpu block. So if that ^ is the case, whats the big deal? If you have to take block apart to thoroughly inspect and see nothing flowing in the loop it is obviously doing no harm, Correct? Is it really worth the hassle of EK RMA and loss of block for weeks? I believe I have read only 1c in temp difference.

Sorry if this has been questioned already, 100+ posts in this thread are timely to sift through.
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Actually, the blocks that are affected, seem to yield slightly better temperatures. The reason the corrosion is a problem, is mainly aesthetic. I purchased Acrylic/Nickel blocks so they would look good. Seeing spotty copper poking through, just looks terrible.

In some extreme corrosion cases, peoples other components have been affected.
 
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post #1044 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Angrybutcher View Post
Actually, the blocks that are affected, seem to yield slightly better temperatures. The reason the corrosion is a problem, is mainly aesthetic. I purchased Acrylic/Nickel blocks so they would look good. Seeing spotty copper poking through, just looks terrible.

In some extreme corrosion cases, peoples other components have been affected.
Corrosion, if unchecked, will literally eat away your block. This can have multiple unpleasant consequences ranging from potentially releasing loose flakes of plating or possibly bits of the block itself into your loop (which can then potentially lodge in your radiator and/or damage your pump) to eating away at the metal underneath o-rings or around fittings, which will of course result in leaks. You would probably have to let it go for a goodly while before anything catastrophic occurred but it's not a good idea to let it happen in the first place.
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post #1045 of 1650
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Originally Posted by spiderm0nkey View Post
Working in customer service, I can honestly say that I will do less for a customer who gets angry and abusive. I always go above and beyond for any someone who approaches the issue with maturity, patience and understanding.
I love this mantra, but working in customer service for the majority of my life has thought me that sometimes those angry customers can change to happy and cooperative customers. All you have to do is let them cool down and work with them. A lot of irate customers have done a complete 180°. Its the ones that are on a relentless rampage to just abuse workers that I refuse to go above and beyond my calling. Everyone deserves a second chance, including irate customers. Those who do not take hold of this opportunity will sour the situation further. I gave EK too many second chances. My
post #1046 of 1650
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Working in customer service, I can honestly say that I will do less for a customer who gets angry and abusive. I always go above and beyond for any someone who approaches the issue with maturity, patience and understanding.
I have worked the Customer Service Hotel Industry for 20+ years. I can honestly say that if I get a guest that starts getting rude with me I tell them to pack their things and get out. I am not responsible for ironing and pressing your sheets in housekeeping nor am I responsible for not having a restaurant on our property. This is not the Ritz Carlton, this is the Baymont. A lower priced hotel that offers the basic amenities for you average business traveler. If you expect ironed sheets and room service you won't get it here for $79 + tax. You will get a clean room, free wireless internet, a new indoor pool and jacuzzi, free Extended Continental breakfast in the morning that includeds: Fresh Hot Waffles, Hard Boiled Eggs and french toast, and you will get to sleep on a brand new Sealy Posturpedic bed. If thats not what you are looking for I can direct you down to the No-Tel Mo-Tel and see how your stay there will be.
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post #1047 of 1650
The report posted last night on RedRaider shows that the problem is plating and not the copper. I have taken Red's report and sent it off for analysis. I will get some feedback sometime next week.
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post #1048 of 1650
I hope I won't get blasted for asking a dumb question or two, but not asking is even more dumb in my opinion.

What's the worst that could happen if one or all 5 of the EK FC-470/580 Nickel/Acetal blocks I own are corroding? It's not that I'm too lazy to take them all apart and check and deal with RMA, I'm just wondering how much of a problem this really is? The interior of my blocks are not visible so that isn't a problem for me. I'm sure the copper would cool just fine if the nickel all dissolved away right? I'm not going to blame EK for a bad plating process, I'm sure they had no clue this was going to happen. Basically I'm more interested in my pump going out than what the inside of my blocks look like. Realistically, should I even care about this issue?

Also, will removing the silver coil and replacing the distilled water stop the corrosion process? I would be fine with doing that once every month or so if that works.
post #1049 of 1650
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I hope I won't get blasted for asking a dumb question or two, but not asking is even more dumb in my opinion.

What's the worst that could happen if one or all 5 of the EK FC-470/580 Nickel/Acetal blocks I own are corroding? It's not that I'm too lazy to take them all apart and check and deal with RMA, I'm just wondering how much of a problem this really is? The interior of my blocks are not visible so that isn't a problem for me. I'm sure the copper would cool just fine if the nickel all dissolved away right? I'm not going to blame EK for a bad plating process, I'm sure they had no clue this was going to happen. Basically I'm more interested in my pump going out than what the inside of my blocks look like. Realistically, should I even care about this issue?

Also, will removing the silver coil and replacing the distilled water stop the corrosion process? I would be fine with doing that once every month or so if that works.
Very little impact in most reported cases. One of the most extreme cases, the copper was eaten away slowly. The most common scenario, the nickel is separating in very small particulates and most likely will collect in small areas like the fins on the cpu block. I didn't have any copper corrosion nor any nickel build up anywhere, I guess the particles just mixed into the liquid.
post #1050 of 1650
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Very little impact in most reported cases. One of the most extreme cases, the copper was eaten away slowly. The most common scenario, the nickel is separating in very small particulates and most likely will collect in small areas like the fins on the cpu block. I didn't have any copper corrosion nor any nickel build up anywhere, I guess the particles just mixed into the liquid.
That's what I was hoping to hear, thanks wermad.

I always keep an eye on my temps anyway, I figure that's where it will show up. It surely won't hurt to do water changes more frequently to flush out those particles, and I put in easy access drain ports so it will be an easy task. Bummer I put in the silver coils now but who knew?
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