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Poll Results: In light of EK's nickel failure, will you buy their blocks?

 
  • 39% (231)
    Yes, continue or consider using their blocks (copper or nickel)
  • 60% (354)
    No, I will look into other manufacturers.
585 Total Votes  
post #1541 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

I'm a bit confused about the greenish blue corrosion found in my radiator, nickel plated Bitspower fittings while my EK FC480 waterblock shows no signs of that greenish blue corrosion! It's no secret that my nickel plating began flaking off my nickel plated block back in 2011, why am I finding this greenish blue corrosion on all other components and not my VGA block? Which came first, the corrosion in my radiator or the flaking of my nickel water block? If you say the VGA nickel plated block started the corrosion why isn't present in my VGA waterblock?

That greenish corrosion is Patina and it's from the Copper in your Radiator. That's why a good Hot flush is recommended to minimize it. You Blocks had nothing to do with it. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
 
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post #1542 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

That greenish corrosion is Patina and it's from the Copper in your Radiator. That's why a good Hot flush is recommended to minimize it. You Blocks had nothing to do with it. thumb.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I had a feeling my VGA block had nothing to do with the Patina in my radiator, found it around the nickel on my Bitspower compression fitting. Once I cleaned the BP compressions there was only copper/brass present. What can I use to slow the process down for my new water cooling loop due next month?
post #1543 of 1650
I was looking at a listing on Flea Bay for a pair of EK GTX 580's (nickel/plexi).

the guy used stock photographs to display them rolleyes.gif

So i asked him if he could e mail a couple of photos showing the inside of the blocks, and the gpu contact area-this was his reply:

'sorry cant do the pics as they are already packed up ready to ship there's no staining and no flaking on either of the blocks these are the EN blocks which have much better nickel plating

no block should have pitting as these are cnc machined out of solid copper blocks

only the early versions had flaking problems and this only happened in a few cases but still enough for ek to improve the plating process'

W T H is wrong with these people? Do they think that everyone is a fool?

So i tore him a new one in my reply (my bad, i should have left the fool go his merry way, but i couldn't resist biggrin.gif )

His last reply was also laughable, but the point here is, does he really think that people will actually buy his blocks? (Rhetorical question of course)


Similar pair for sale in our marketplace, and they included photos wink.gif
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

You know what, I think I have made up my mind about EK for the foreseeable future because of you last reply. I honestly don't care if you remove those stupid circles or if you have fixed your plating issues. Your attitude towards customers who bring up very valid points and reviews can best be summarized as a petulant child. "I don't care what you say, I can't hear you, I got my fingers in my ears, na na na na na!"
I'm done with EK until they do some MASSIVE changes, starting off with an open letter apology to the entire water cooling community, and very possibly, your removal from the company.
Good day sir.


OUCH!!!!
Edited by kkorky - 12/2/12 at 1:03pm
post #1544 of 1650
Double post, my bad sorry, Mod plse remove-thanks
post #1545 of 1650
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkorky View Post

I was looking at a listing on Flea Bay for a pair of EK GTX 580's (nickel/plexi).
the guy used stock photographs to display them rolleyes.gif
So i asked him if he could e mail a couple of photos showing the inside of the blocks, and the gpu contact area-this was his reply:
'sorry cant do the pics as they are already packed up ready to ship there's no staining and no flaking on either of the blocks these are the EN blocks which have much better nickel plating
no block should have pitting as these are cnc machined out of solid copper blocks
only the early versions had flaking problems and this only happened in a few cases but still enough for ek to improve the plating process'

W T H is wrong with these people? Do they think that everyone is a fool?
So i tore him a new one in my reply (my bad, i should have left the fool go his merry way, but i couldn't resist biggrin.gif )
His last reply was also laughable, but the point here is, does he really think that people will actually buy his blocks? (Rhetorical question of course)
Similar pair for sale in our marketplace, and they included photos wink.gif
OUCH!!!!

If he's not willing to ensure the blocks are not flaking, then use this as ammo w/ fleabay to get your money back. If they are bad, this falls under the "item not as described". The seller should be aware of this if not, he's chancing it. W/ ebay buyers protection, your covered so it would be his benefit of the doubt. Some seller and buyers are just unbelievable on ebay sometimes. That's one of the reasons I rarely sell and avoid it can to buy.
post #1546 of 1650
Hey W, i think that i didnt explain myself clearly-my apologies tongue.gif

I didnt actually buy anything from this guy, this was an initial enquiry after having seen his listing.

So you see he was using the 'already packed' excuse BEFORE he had even sold the blocks-hence my anger.

There is NO way in hell, that i would buy any used nickel blocks without having seen them properly-if i did, i deserved then to be kicked from this forum, after all, all the info we need is here at our fingertips, and we ignore it at our own peril wink.gif

I just posted his reply as an example of seller arrogance and stupidity-i guess as a type of warning, avoid such sellers at all costs.

What got me going is the misinformation that he tried to run by me-and the fact that he will spew the same false BS to other potential/unsuspecting buyers on Flea Bay.(funnily enough hes already has 2x bids on them, but i have no way of contacting the potential buyers to warn them of the pitfalls)-sure it looks like im being a nosey a**hole, but having learned so much on this forum, i feel obliged to inform others when i can.

Sure you have buyers protection, but the hassle involved in getting a refund is a PITA.

Thanks though for your help, regardless if it was needed or not-its the action/thought that counts thumb.gif (+1REP)

By the way, i like the 'new addition' to your family, its HUGE biggrin.gif
Edited by kkorky - 12/2/12 at 6:41pm
post #1547 of 1650
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

If he's not willing to ensure the blocks are not flaking, then use this as ammo w/ fleabay to get your money back. If they are bad, this falls under the "item not as described". The seller should be aware of this if not, he's chancing it. W/ ebay buyers protection, your covered so it would be his benefit of the doubt. Some seller and buyers are just unbelievable on ebay sometimes. That's one of the reasons I rarely sell and avoid it can to buy.

I just sold an EK Surpreme HF that had some nickel coming off, it sold quickly! It's here.
post #1548 of 1650
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kkorky View Post

Hey W, i think that i didnt explain myself clearly-my apologies tongue.gif
I didnt actually buy anything from this guy, this was an initial enquiry after having seen his listing.
So you see he was using the 'already packed' excuse BEFORE he had even sold the blocks-hence my anger.
There is NO way in hell, that i would buy any used nickel blocks without having seen them properly-if i did, i deserved then to be kicked from this forum, after all, all the info we need is here at our fingertips, and we ignore it at our own peril wink.gif
I just posted his reply as an example of seller arrogance and stupidity-i guess as a type of warning, avoid such sellers at all costs.
What got me going is the misinformation that he tried to run by me-and the fact that he will spew the same false BS to other potential/unsuspecting buyers on Flea Bay.(funnily enough hes already has 2x bids on them, but i have no way of contacting the potential buyers to warn them of the pitfalls)-sure it looks like im being a nosey a**hole, but having learned so much on this forum, i feel obliged to inform others when i can.
Sure you have buyers protection, but the hassle involved in getting a refund is a PITA.
Thanks though for your help, regardless if it was needed or not-its the action/thought that counts thumb.gif (+1REP)
By the way, i like the 'new addition' to your family, its HUGE biggrin.gif

Yeah, I totally understand you and I'm just commenting on how it looks a bit suspecious to no able to comply w/ a simple inspection. I sell a lot of stuff (biggrin.gif) and I don't pack until everyone is ready.

Lol, yeah, the shear size and weight of this new setup means it will go on the floor redface.gif
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Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

I just sold an EK Surpreme HF that had some nickel coming off, it sold quickly! It's here.

Those who know there's no performance (negative) impact due to the nickel flaking and/or who just don't care about this issue will scoop it up with no issues. I'm not 100% convinced on CSQ (though it will not be ruled out in the future), I'm thinking it has caused the pre-CSQ stuff to be more desirable. And hence, why they get sold asap smile.gif. I'm thinking of switching to EK 580 blocks just for the rigidity of the bridge system and backplate ease of application (EK). Though, they are much more finicky to install compared to the DD. I'm sure I'm going to have a hard time scouring four (non-direct) blocks and I'm not concerned about the flaking (unless its overpriced wink.gif).
post #1549 of 1650
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Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

I just sold an EK Surpreme HF that had some nickel coming off, it sold quickly! It's here.

Nice block btw-and you sold it really cheaply-i have the exact model but with the brass base in mint condition, and i will be selling it for no less than 50-60 pounds(not dollars lol), since its a collectors item, and many people hate the CSQ design .

But, i would have bought your block and done this to it, as i did with another EK block that my wife insisted that she have in her rig: http://www.overclock.net/t/1265630/new-ek-blocks/310

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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Yeah, I totally understand you and I'm just commenting on how it looks a bit suspecious to no able to comply w/ a simple inspection. I sell a lot of stuff (biggrin.gif) and I don't pack until everyone is ready.

EXACTLY my friend.


Lol, yeah, the shear size and weight of this new setup means it will go on the floor redface.gif
Those who know there's no performance (negative) impact due to the nickel flaking and/or who just don't care about this issue will scoop it up with no issues. I'm not 100% convinced on CSQ (though it will not be ruled out in the future), I'm thinking it has caused the pre-CSQ stuff to be more desirable. And hence, why they get sold asap smile.gif. I'm thinking of switching to EK 580 blocks just for the rigidity of the bridge system and backplate ease of application (EK). Though, they are much more finicky to install compared to the DD. I'm sure I'm going to have a hard time scouring four (non-direct) blocks and I'm not concerned about the flaking (unless its overpriced wink.gif).

Im running an EK GTX 580 block/backplate-great block, great temps & yes, very rigid with the backplate installed.

Time to start driving around the neighbourhood yard sales to find a table to accommodate it-to much dust down in 'Hades'. Hmm come to think of it though, not many yard sales in Fall-oh well next best bet-child labour using, IKEA thumb.gif
Edited by kkorky - 12/3/12 at 3:32pm
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^^^ lachen.gif

It'll get heavier once I add bigger rads inside and more fans redface.gif
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