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Hey guys,
Just a quick question about Rad Sizes..

I have an i7 running at 4ghz now with the default H70 cooler, and its within pretty good temp ranges (up tp 80 at 100% load). Ive taken the plunge for a custom loop however, to get better temps, and just simply as a pet project.

This is my thought/hope
Switching from the H70 which works, to a better rad, better CPU block, and MUCH MUCH higher flow, i figure a single 120x120 rad will be just find to keep my CPU in check.. i mean if the h70 can do it, it would boggle my mind why a custom loop couldn't. The rad i picked out is a Koolance HX-CU420V, which says it can displace about 400W of heat, and from what i can find, the i7 @ 4ghz is about 300W of heat..

My Question:
Think adding a full coverage motherboard waterblock to the loop will be too much for the loop to handle and I will HAVE to use a new 120x240 rad? or do you think the full block wont add that much heat to the system and the current setup will still be ok?

Info:
Im not going for world record temps, as long as my CPU can stay under 75c or so at 100% load, im happy.. and if my NB and SB can stay within thier 50c or so, again im happy..

I also want to try desperately to keep it all to a single 120x120 rad, as my case is dedicated to LANS and space is minimal. I do not want to add external rads where they can get damaged.

Anyone know if I should be ok, or am I dreaming of cooling all that on a single rad?

I have zero plans to WC my videocards, so the CPU and MB will be the only things on the loop.

Thanks for your guys input
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Your cooling will only be as good as the fans you use to cool the rad(s). You could use a 240 rad for CPU and MB probably, only just, definitely a 120 rad is not enough rad to cool your components properly.
    
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post #3 of 22
For a CPU only loop, with the aim of temps a little lower than the H50/H70, then a single 120mm rad is enough.
MB blocks don't add a lot of heat.

With a very good 120mm rad, and push/pull with decent high flow fans with good static pressure, you will get a little lower temps than the H50/H70 and cool the board as well. But don't expect miracles. Even the limited added heat from the motherboard blocks will push you close to the limits of what a single rad can disperse.
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well first off...welcome to the realm of true water cooling..
First I must ask, what is you take on full coverage motherboard waterblocks and is it more for show or for other things.
I say.. honestly.. grab one of those RASA kits with a 240 radiator...you don't NEED a motherboard block.
With that said... coming from a very hot 780i motherboard and having to watercool the nf200 chip, I had to watercool that puppy.. and since going straight to an EVGA Classified x58 760 motherboard I am pretty sure I could've done with out...however.. with where I live... tropical island quite hot here.. I would still need it...
So it's a toss for you.. is it for looks or you like the peace of mind that you radiators are doing something special to you motherboard as well..
I honestly say.. go for it.. get the RASA kit.. with some nice fans.. get the 240 radiator and maybe get the block.. with good fans.. with the kit.. you'll cool your cpu and motherboard greatly.
Good luck..
and if I don't make sense.. haha sorry just woke up...
but yeah...I say yes do it.. but for looks and on a budget no.. for extreme temps and lower temps with the peace of mind of some loving care to the mobo. then yes...
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haha.. wow ghost posts from these other fellas..
yeah.. I pretty much with them all of there posts....
I still stand behind the whole RASA kit. it's great.. just get some nice fans... maybe some yate mediums.. or what ever..* I really don't know what comes with this kit...

Side note...
Since this is your first time.. trying to piece a watercooling kit thing.. I promise you... you will want to expand... when budget allows of course..
with that said.. have fun.
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It's easier, faster, cheaper (if you're using good WC parts) to just go with a h50/h70 (which you already have) - if you're only going to use a single 120mm rad. ~$70/~$100.

Next best thing, would be the XSPC Rasa 240 kit, which is a great deal @ ~$130 for about everything you need.

Past that, 360mm/480mm I would go with a custom loop for ~ $200-300+.

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And no, don't bother using a motherboard block on an x58.
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First of all, thanks for the advice. I know i wouldnt be able to get a 240 into my case, however, *IF* i stare at my case long enough, and can get creative, i MAY be able to get two 120's in to there, one in the front as an intake, one as an exhaust.. but thats going to take some modding..

From the sounds of your guys's answers, i could possibly get away with 1 single rad (a good one) with some good fans.. however, i wont get anything ground breaking for temps, they would just be "under control" with that setup. Also, I should consider that i might need a plan B and add an additional rad.

The H70 i have on right now as i mentiond, however, i have gone and already purchaced the following

Apogee Ultra Ex Waterblock
XSPC Reservoir and Laing D5 Variable Speed Pump
3/8' Barbs & ID Tubing
Koolance 120 HX-CU420V Rad
and 3 Akasa APACHE S-Flow Fans

Thats whats sitting on my bench right now being leak tested until a few last parks come in (like a HHD Cage)

And what i plan to run in this system

What im trying to cool, motherboard wise is my Rampage III Formula.

The NB and SB temps sit in the 50s and 60s under load right now.. and this just came out. Id like to see that down a bit, but ive also read a lot about these motherboards running fairly hot anyhow.

What im hoping i can add to the loop, is this

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roduct_id=2023

pretty much the only full coverage, 1 piece block i can find for the formula series board. Just released a few days ago

So that, and my i7 @ 4ghz is what im hoping to run on that Koolance rad (link to rad )

you think My board wont need that? or would be overkill? is 50c normal for a NB to be running at?

thanks guys!
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I would swap out the rad and fans for different ones. Since you can use 2x 120 rads I would go with 2 hw labs black ice gtx 120s with 1850 rpm gentle typhoons on them. Those rads are high fpi and since you cant fit bigger rads in the case they will dissipate more heat due to the higher fin density. The only downfall is that they aren't really that good at cooling with low rpm fans, under like 1400 that is. The 1850 rpm gentle typhoons are amazing fans and everyone on the forum will vouch for that. As for the gtx series radiators and hw labs rads in general, they are top notch build quality and second to none (only exception is the gts which is meh).
 
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I use the Black Ice 360 (the thick one) with the EK block and 3 Sun Ace 120mm fans and I can stay under 60C even when it it 95F ambient. The big factor from my experience is ambients. It you keep your rig in a room at 65F, great but I was folding with the rig out on the back porch(at 95F) so I would not have to listen to it. Another really big factor is how many volts it takes to run at 4GHz, Typically I go a bit high and use 1.28 with a i7-930,seems to add folding stability. You don't want to crash doing one of the -bigadv WU's.

EDIT: No way at all would a single 120 rad work in my situation, folding is an extreme application of hardware though.
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