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Makes sense from a business prospective.. sad from the consumer prospective.

I just switched to evga. As long as I am covered by a decent warranty I am happy.
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ya but i just think its stupid to change warranty every other day. im NVIDIA from now on anyway.
Why does Nvidia make a difference? XFX doesn't represent ATI.
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Then don't change it if you can't afford to replace it.

So many people buy cards for their warranty. Buying a card for its warranty to me means you expect it to fail or have a problem. I on the other hand would prefer buying the highest quality card I could, regardless of warranty. My 4870 has a 2 year warranty. It's doing great, but if it fails, I'll buy a new one. It's already a couple generations old. But still, the best cards don't need a warranty so long as they don't arrive DOA.
Are you kidding me? I think a good warranty means that the company has faith in their product. I think the warranty is a very important part of any product. There are people out there who spend hundreds just on warranty alone. Everyone wants peace of mind. Also no company or product is perfect all the time. Things sometimes break. If my PSU had a 1 year warranty instead of 5, I would be worried.
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Are you kidding me? I think a good warranty means that the company has faith in their product. I think the warranty is a very important part of any product. There are people out there who spend hundreds just on warranty alone. Everyone wants peace of mind. Also no company or product is perfect all the time. Things sometimes break. If my PSU had a 1 year warranty instead of 5, I would be worried.
I'm not kidding you.

I bought my Sapphire 4870 well knowing it had a 2 year warranty. I got a great deal on a very high quality product.

People have recommended XFX for a long time because "OMG DOUBLE LIFETIME WARRANTY! MUST HAVE!" but that meant nothing - they instead put out cards with very poor quality. Warranty in their case meant absolutely nothing.

My card however has one of the best coolers from its day. In my case it won't ever reach above 55C under load. With a sound card blocking the fan, it still won't exceed 64C. Having a good warranty doesn't magically make a card higher quality. Still running strong for having been running for two years, because it has high quality components.

newegg has a 30 day warranty. Run your product non stop for a month. If it fails within a month, go through newegg's RMA. If it works from then on in, chances are (not always) that the product is fine. If my card lasts 2 years without a single issue, chances are it will last at least another year, which will easily be time to get a new one if it does. I wouldn't be surprised if this card lives twice it's warranty. If it doesn't, it's an excuse to get new technology.

And I can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a warranty, just look at my system. I spent $65 on this processor over 2 years ago. While everyone on this site is able to buy various i7 and Phenom II processors each year, I don't toss my money around like that, simply because I can't afford to, which is why I would rather spend $100 more on a better product and not a better warranty.


Quality makes for better piece of mind, not warranty.
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post #15 of 35
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they put stickers over the X-Clamp screws so if you try to take it off you void the warranty

Those stickers do not apply to north america!
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From a business perspective I don't agree. Allowing people to take apart your products, and you have to pay the costs to fix it should anything go wrong, I can see why they have this stance.

As a consumer though, I have to say its a shame. Not a fan of XFX after my last purchase but still..
The problem with this policy is other manufactures do cover modding and thus you are losing the market of modders. I use custom cooling on my cards and have never had to RMA anything, but if I did I wouldn't want my warranty voided when their transistor goes bad and I need the card fixed.

However, unless they put a stuck on the cooler where is seperates from the circuit board how are they going to know whether or not you used a water block.
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i was watching an unboxing of the 6970 and he noted that xfx doesn't support modders anymore that means if you take the cooler off it will void your warranty, is it just me or do you think XFX shot themselvs in the foot with this move?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qxuq...eature=recentu
XFX shot them selfs in the foot a long time ago when they started screwing people in the UK with bad RMAs. as far as XFX is concerned unless they have decent card on at some ridiculous low price i'll probably get HIS or Sapphire.
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I'm not kidding you.

I bought my Sapphire 4870 well knowing it had a 2 year warranty. I got a great deal on a very high quality product.

People have recommended XFX for a long time because "OMG DOUBLE LIFETIME WARRANTY! MUST HAVE!" but that meant nothing - they instead put out cards with very poor quality. Warranty in their case meant absolutely nothing.

My card however has one of the best coolers from its day. In my case it won't ever reach above 55C under load. With a sound card blocking the fan, it still won't exceed 64C. Having a good warranty doesn't magically make a card higher quality. Still running strong for having been running for two years, because it has high quality components.

newegg has a 30 day warranty. Run your product non stop for a month. If it fails within a month, go through newegg's RMA. If it works from then on in, chances are (not always) that the product is fine. If my card lasts 2 years without a single issue, chances are it will last at least another year, which will easily be time to get a new one if it does. I wouldn't be surprised if this card lives twice it's warranty. If it doesn't, it's an excuse to get new technology.

And I can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a warranty, just look at my system. I spent $65 on this processor over 2 years ago. While everyone on this site is able to buy various i7 and Phenom II processors each year, I don't toss my money around like that, simply because I can't afford to, which is why I would rather spend $100 more on a better product and not a better warranty.


Quality makes for better piece of mind, not warranty.
I use common sense when buying a product so knowing how crappy XFX's customer service is I would never buy one of their cards even if they have their so called "double lifetime warranty". I bought an Asus card, which I believe is just as good in quality with a Saphire, but because the Asus has a three year warranty that is awarded by the serial number in the back of the card it makes it much more valuable. Not only does it have 1 year more warranty then most cards I am able to sell the card with some warranty in tact.

Also when I mentioned hundred dollars in warranty costs i meant in general for like TVs and stuff.
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I've had several XFX nVidia cards, two 8800GTS 320's and one 9800GTX+. One of the 8800's broke and I couldn't RMA it because I replaced the stock cooler and it messed the worthless thermal pads they have on the reference cards. The other one is still going strong after all these years at 650/1000. The 9800GTX+ is not a reference card, it was good for the price (slightly overpriced) but I bought it in case I ever wanted to use it as a Physix card.

I can say I won't be buying another XFX card again. To be honest I only bought this MSI 6870 because I like their Afterburner software and bought it as a way of showing support. They support the community of overclockers and deserve that same support back.
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Haha, just when I thought XFX couldn't tarnish their reputation anymore... Great going XFX, now nobody on this forum will ever consider your products!
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