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Because the benefits of 5.0Ghz are obviously worth it to them. Mabey to 1 in 1000 forum members

You don't know, so you can't understand.As an engineer I understand perfectly

But I'll just say one thing - my 5.1Ghz 2600k is equally stable as yours at stock. Why? Because a good overclocker knows how to stabilize his chip perfectly. You can dispute that all you want, but my rig and your rig will crash just as often - guaranteed. Don't disagree, but lets talk in a year

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Please don't do that again. It makes your life easier replying and my life harder writing back.

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Mabey to 1 in 1000 forum members
That's like saying "1 in 1,000 forum members on ILoveCandy.com.. loves candy".

No, my friend, 1 in 1,000 DON'T understand the benefits of overclocking.. and guess who that 1 person is..

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As an engineer I understand perfectly
You're an engineer and yet you fail to understand that 5.0Ghz > 3.4Ghz?

No offense, but I personally wouldn't hire you.

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Don't disagree, but lets talk in a year
This is pretty easy argument to refute.

I don't think you understand why you want to wait a year (I assume you heard it somewhere), but it has to do with temps brought on by voltages.

If you run a CPU at higher temps, it will undoubtably die sooner than if you had run it cooler.

So, easily enough, since I am going to be watercooling my chip very soon, my temps will actually be LOWER than yours.

Which means your chip will die before mine.

Of course, even if I stuck with my TRUE and had higher temps than you, my chip would likely not die for over 5 years, where as yours could last for 7. And in 5 years, I won't even remember it anymore.
Edited by Track - 4/4/11 at 12:26am
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This is pretty easy argument to refute.

I don't think you understand why you want to wait a year (I assume you heard it somewhere), but it has to do with temps brought on by voltages.

If you run a CPU at higher temps, it will undoubtably die sooner than if you had run it cooler.

So, easily enough, since I am going to be watercooling my chip very soon, my temps will actually be LOWER than yours.

Which means your chip will die before mine.

Of course, even if I stuck with my TRUE and had higher temps than you, my chip would likely not die for over 5 years, where as yours could last for 7. And in 5 years, I won't even remember it anymore.
No I didn't hear it somewhere, I know how engineers do things, you think the C states and speed step are for just saving power? They are for making sure your cpu lives thru warranty. It is not like the old days where low temps=safe. Its about wattage, sure high temps will kill a cpu but so will high watts with low temp over an extended time. I bet you have every power saving feature disabled.

Its perfectly fine to recommend people overclock safely, but you are pushing the envolope/a trend setter, maybe a martyr. Why don't you fold 24/7 on that rig for a few months and report back. I hope I am wrong for your sake but don't go around telling everyone there are no risks with what you are doing.
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No I didn't hear it somewhere, I know how engineers do things, you think the C states and speed step are for just saving power? They are for making sure your cpu lives thru warranty. It is not like the old days where low temps=safe. Its about wattage, sure high temps will kill a cpu but so will high watts with low temp over an extended time. I bet you have every power saving feature disabled.

Its perfectly fine to recommend people overclock safely, but you are pushing the envolope/a trend setter, maybe a martyr. Why don't you fold 24/7 on that rig for a few months and report back. I hope I am wrong for your sake but don't go around telling everyone there are no risks with what you are doing.
I'll gladly go fold 24/7 with my 5GHz procy, I'll even do it for more then a few months. O wait, I already do.

There is no doubt electromigration occurs, can't get around that. But with the lifespan of these chips who cares if I knock 15 years off it's life.

BTW: This is OCN: We Void Warranties!
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No I didn't hear it somewhere, I know how engineers do things, you think the C states and speed step are for just saving power? They are for making sure your cpu lives thru warranty. It is not like the old days where low temps=safe. Its about wattage, sure high temps will kill a cpu but so will high watts with low temp over an extended time. I bet you have every power saving feature disabled.

Its perfectly fine to recommend people overclock safely, but you are pushing the envolope/a trend setter, maybe a martyr. Why don't you fold 24/7 on that rig for a few months and report back. I hope I am wrong for your sake but don't go around telling everyone there are no risks with what you are doing.
Oh sure!

Once I build my SECOND 2600k @ 5.0Ghz rig, I will be folding on both.

Not to mention my GTX 590 and GTX 480 SLi.

Just want to get everything ready first.
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Any chance you'll throw in the Biostar TP67B+ board in the comparison chart?
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Any chance you'll throw in the Biostar TP67B+ board in the comparison chart?
If you want it, IT SHALL BE DONE!
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/industr...b3-mainboard/1

The P67-GD80 from MSI is out on Newegg.

All I can tell is that it's from 6 to 12 Phases and has 3 PCIe x16 slots for TriFire or Tri SLI.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/industr...b3-mainboard/1

The P67-GD80 from MSI is out on Newegg.

All I can tell is that it's from 6 to 12 Phases and has 3 PCIe x16 slots for TriFire or Tri SLI.
Excellent. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Been a little busy with my builds

EDIT: And I see Big Bang Marhsal is out as well! It seems the US site needs updating, as it's missing both.
Edited by Track - 4/7/11 at 10:40am
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Added: Bing Bang Marshal, P67A-GD80, Updated pricing.
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