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Wow, you live in the Philippines? That's even more impressive. I heard hardware prices were insane over there.

65C at stock voltage seems a bit high, but when you factor 4.6Ghz into it.. it really doesn't seem bad anymore.
But wow, 90C.. heck, that's not even the max. I would run 90C 24/7 if I was going to upgrade in a year anyway.
But I'm running a Dual-Fan lapped TRUE @ 5.1Ghz and 1.425v and I never get into 80C. That's what I call 24/7.

You should try that.
Oh, and make sure to add yourself to the OC results!
Got no car and my gas money goes to PC hardware! But a little selling of old parts and saving up compensates for the prices here. The lowest priced i5 2500K here costs about Php 9,300 = $215. Just checked newegg and they sell for $224. Probably you can get a lower price at other stores?

I remember lapping my TRUE 120 back in the E4300 days. I even lapped the IHS of the E4300 lol.

Hey thanks for the heads up, gonna check that OC result spreadsheet now.
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Got no car and my gas money goes to PC hardware! But a little selling of old parts and saving up compensates for the prices here. The lowest priced i5 2500K here costs about Php 9,300 = $215. Just checked newegg and they sell for $224. Probably you can get a lower price at other stores?

I remember lapping my TRUE 120 back in the E4300 days. I even lapped the IHS of the E4300 lol.

Hey thanks for the heads up, gonna check that OC result spreadsheet now.
Wow, that's some dedication. I give you a lot of respect, my friend.

But just remember - eBay is the best option, I find, for international purchase.

That said, you can't get a 2500k for less than 215$ in the US. Kudos!
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That said, you can't get a 2500k for less than 215$ in the US. Kudos!
Actually, found one for 179.99 today, prior to tax. Even then, puts it at slightly less than 200 for walking out the door.

B&M only though: http://www.microcenter.com/index.html

Also, I'm looking at building a system around that exact CPU, is this the best place to talk about potential MB and other hardware fits for me?
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Actually, found one for 179.99 today, prior to tax. Even then, puts it at slightly less than 200 for walking out the door.

B&M only though: http://www.microcenter.com/index.html

Also, I'm looking at building a system around that exact CPU, is this the best place to talk about potential MB and other hardware fits for me?
Can't think of a better place
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Asus WS Revolution and M4E only support 3-way SLI. The chart lists quad which only applies to 590s in 2-way or Quadro cards. You can 4-way Xfire though
Maybe adding a column for PCIe speeds 16x8x8 & 8x8x8x8 too?
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/3/11 at 3:26pm
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Asus WS Revolution and M4E only support 3-way SLI. The chart lists quad which only applies to 590s in 2-way or Quadro cards. You can 4-way Xfire though
Maybe adding a column for PCIe speeds 16x16x8 & 8x8x8x8 too?
The M4E supports Triple-SLi officially. But as far as I know, the extra PCIe x4 slot does not lose bandwidth if the other 3 slots are occupied, making Quad-SLi possible.

The WS Revolution makes things even more cryptic. ASUS only lists it as 4x PCIe x8. That's not possible, so I'm assuming it's the same as the M4E, since they both have the same NF200 chip and the same amount of PCIe lanes.

But you have a good point about the separate PCIe speeds.
The only problem is, like I said, manufacturers simply don't detail it well enough.
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The M4E supports Triple-SLi officially. But as far as I know, the extra PCIe x4 slot does not lose bandwidth if the other 3 slots are occupied, making Quad-SLi possible.

The WS Revolution makes things even more cryptic. ASUS only lists it as 4x PCIe x8. That's not possible, so I'm assuming it's the same as the M4E, since they both have the same NF200 chip and the same amount of PCIe lanes.

But you have a good point about the separate PCIe speeds.
The only problem is, like I said, manufacturers simply don't detail it well enough.
I'm confused on what you're confused about
I thought the drivers won't let you Quad-SLI on the mobo since it only sees one NF200. Nvidia forces you to have two for 4-way quad-sli I thought. (Just like they force you to have a NF200 chip to enable Quad-SLI on 590s) Have you heard of anyone enabling Quad-SLI on those mobos?

Why is 8x8x8x8 not possible? Only 32 lanes.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/3/11 at 5:31pm
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I'm confused on what you're confused about
I thought the drivers won't let you Quad-SLI on the mobo since it only sees one NF200. Nvidia forces you to have two for quad I thought. (Just like they force you to have a NF200 chip to enable Quad-SLI on 590s) Have you heard of anyone enabling Quad-SLI on those mobos?

Why is 8x8x8x8 not possible? Only 32 lanes. I assume they could do 16x8x8x8 which is the total of 40 lanes that you see in 3-way 16x16x8.
Did I claim to be confused?

It's not likely because if the M4E doesn't do x8x8x8x8, it's doubtful that the WS Revolution would.

Now, as far as I know, if there are four PCIe slots, Quad-SLi is possible. The drivers don't care about the amount of PCIe lanes.

And, I am almost certain that GTX 590 Quad SLi can be applied on any motherboard with two PCIe slots. I don't see a reason why it would require an NF200, but I'll check.

EDIT: Yes, I can confirm this. You can run GTX 590 on any motherboard.
Edited by Track - 5/3/11 at 8:14am
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Did I claim to be confused?

It's not likely because if the M4E doesn't do x8x8x8x8, it's doubtful that the WS Revolution would.

Now, as far as I know, if there are four PCIe slots, Quad-SLi is possible. The drivers don't care about the amount of PCIe lanes.

And, I am almost certain that GTX 590 Quad SLi can be applied on any motherboard with two PCIe slots. I don't see a reason why it would require an NF200, but I'll check.

EDIT: Yes, I can confirm this. You can run GTX 590 on any motherboard.
You can run a single 590 on any, but the drivers won't let you SLI two 590s without a NF200 chip on your mobo even though they already have one on the card.

Quote:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/triple...radeon-6990/16
Where NVIDIA confused me personally was the fact that initially on a P67 Big Bang Marshal (SLI compatible) motherboard we could not get the two GTX 590 cards running in SLI mode. After spending a couple of hours trying to resolve this issue it suddenly hit me. NVIDIA requires an NF200 chip (maybe even two) on the motherboard for Quad-SLI. Only then will the quad-SLI mode in the GeForce driver open up.

Now each of the GTX 590 cards already has a NF200 chip sitting in-between the two GPUs, so in theory there's no need for an additional NF200 IC on the motherboard as each card will get x8 PCIe lanes assigned to them. Still, NVIDIA requires you to purchase an expensive motherboard to get that supported. I'm sorry but that sounds like (not trying to sound like an asshat here) corporate greed and we feel it's something completely unnecessary. Heck it works fine for AMD as well right ? We do hope that NVIDIA will drop this driver limitation, as really that's what it in the end boils down to. So, you are required to purchase a (quad) SLI motherboard with NF200 bridge chip, something like the eVGA X58 Quad SLI or the Gigabyte X58 UD9, both roughly 500 EUR.
Both the M4E and WS Revolution can do 4-way Xfire. Asus lists the lanes as 8x8x8x8
I want to correct myself above, 3-way is actually 16x8x8. So both are 32 lanes. Asus describes the WS Revolution saying you can only 3-way SLI but can 4-way with Quadro cards. I don't think you'll find anyone has been able to 4-way SLI on the WS Revolution.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 5/3/11 at 6:06pm
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Where's that list of Z68 boards?
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