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You're wrong.

I don't dislike Z68 for being different. I encourage such behavior.

I dislike it for being useless, and mostly the same as P67.

P67 ([H]) + H67 (n00b) = Z68.

It's like putting a toddler seat in an F1 racer..

On the one hand "It's more than just an F1 racer..", but on the other hand..

What the point of the toddler seat? I don't have any kids.

Catch my drift?
its not like putting a toddler seat in an F1 racer. The integrated graphics are meant to be used in tandem with a discrete graphics card. The integrated graphics are WAY faster than a card is at video transcoding, and when you overclock the CPU you also overclock the graphics so a 2600k OC'd to 5ghz can encode video like its nothing. Also, dont quote me on this, but i'm pretty sure with the new LucidLogix software it enables you to use the integrated graphics when you're doing everyday nondemanding tasks and automatically switch to the card when you start graphically intense programs. That will save a TON of power. Z68 can hardly be considered a bad thing. Its everything p67 is plus more features. Nothing from p67 is being hampered, so i dont see how everyone is making it out to be such a travesty. And its not like they're way more expensive either.
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P67 ([H]) + H67 (n00b) = Z68.
And what's wrong with that? It's only a 10-20$ different according to your chart. Sounds like a deal to me

You would have to be a fool to expect Intel to release a chipset that dwarfed what they just put out only a few months prior. This isn't for people who have P67, this is for people who have yet to upgrade to anything Sandy Bridge
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And what's wrong with that? It's only a 10-20$ different according to your chart. Sounds like a deal to me

You would have to be a fool to expect Intel to release a chipset that dwarfed what they just put out only a few months prior. This isn't for people who have P67, this is for people who have yet to upgrade to anything Sandy Bridge
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Also, dont quote me on this, but i'm pretty sure with the new LucidLogix software it enables you to use the integrated graphics when you're doing everyday nondemanding tasks and automatically switch to the card when you start graphically intense programs. That will save a TON of power.
Quoted!

When a graphics card is installed, the difference in power usage at idle is negligible - whether using the LucidLogix Virtu technology or not. [Link]


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I want the integrated graphics as it's a nice feature to have.
Not going to lie, that doesn't really sell it.
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Quoted!

When a graphics card is installed, the difference in power usage at idle is negligible - whether using the LucidLogix Virtu technology or not. [Link]




Not going to lie, that doesn't really sell it.
Then don't buy it ...no one is asking you to buy it...show us what your system rig is... and go pi$$ in your own back yard

Edit: from your own link....



ASUS P8Z68 V PRO Intel Z68 review

By: Hilbert Hagedoorn Edited by Syed Mohammad | Published: May 11, 2011


Finals Words and conclusion

Okay so we need to breakup this conclusion into two segments, the chipset and the actual ASUS mother board review. Let's start off with the chipset. The Intel Z68 chipset takes the best of both worlds in the series 6 chipset, monitor IO wise the H67 connectivity and IGP support and the power performance and tweaking features of the P67 chipset. Combined they make a strong duo and as such I welcome the Z67 chipset very much. It's especially the H67 end-users that can life with the IGP that would like to overclock a little. It's a much missed feature for them and the Z68 closes that gap. Bare in mind though you will need a K model Sandy Bridge processor in order to overclock.
The new Intel Smart Response Technology is something interesting but we feel will be very limited to a small group of enthusiast users that understand and know what they need to do before getting it setup properly. The idea is simple, use an SSD to cache the most used data of the operating system HDD. The downside here is a fairly complicated setup and an investment of an SSD. And though we feel once you purchase an SSD you will not want to compromise with the HDD injected into that core data, it might end up as a sound solution. The performance increases are impressive none the less and combined with a small cheap SSD, this might be an excellent alternative for the budget minded that dream of SSD performance.
Though not a specific Intel feature, pretty much all Z68 will come with graphics switching technology, whether that comes from NVIDIA (Optimus) or Lucid Virtu will be dependant on the ODM (Original Device Manufacturer), but with Intel having a sizable share in Lucid, we think most Z68 motherboards will see the light of Virtu, allowing your motherboard to quickly switch in-between the Sandybridge IGP and the dedicated graphics card. Admittedly, the current control software is a joke to look at and it isn't stable either. None the less, you do get to choose from the best of both worlds, nothing is faster then transcoding a movie with MediaShow Espressso over say a Core i7 2600K processor with the now enabled benefit of Quick Sync being active. Normally when a dedicated graphics card is installed, these feature would be lost. And that's where Virtu will help out, you assign your IGP to that transcoding job whereas for gaming the dedicated graphics card kicks in. We like the idea, the implementation itself needs to get a whole lot better though. But it is a decent enough start.
The ASUS P8Z68-V-PRO motherboard itself then, yeah we like it. It's that typical ASUS design that again is striking and offering a truckload of features. ASUS takes that Z68 chipset and then adds, adds, and adds. The end result is a motherboard with massive overclockability, great baseline performance and the industry's best EFI BIOS implementation. Seriously, the ASUS EFI (GUI based) BIOS rocks hard man, it's a great GUI and easy to navigate in environment. This motherboard is based of the new 14-phase Digi+ VRM to power the CPU plus anther two for the memory. The board is loaded with features including two additional SATA 6G ports (Marvel), USB 3.0, BlueTooth, the card features four DIMM sockets, two PCI Express x1 slots, two legacy PCI slots, as well as three PCI Express x16 slots, but don't expect surprises for multi-GPU support, since the Z68 chipset is identical to the P67 in this respect - just a pair of discrete graphics cards are supported in the x8/x8 configuration.
All in all the component usage is top notch again and the baseline performance even a hint faster then P67. The board layout is excellent, everything is well placed, you'll have plenty of FAN headers and will see the now expected as normal micro buttons for reset/power but also micro switches for EPU, TPU and MemOK.
Yes, the ASUS P8 series are sound and rock solid and as such they are hard to beat. The combination of this motherboard with Intel's Z68 and Lucid Virtu mode is interesting. Really, we feel that Z68 is what should have been H67 and P67 these two chipsets stirred up a lot of confusion. We do know for sure that hardware wise this board is a winner. Tweaking wise you'll achieve the same results as on P67, you can clock a K series SandyBridgeprocessor quite quickly to roughly 4.5 to 5.0 GHz. At the moment of writing this article the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO is listed for roughly 175~185€, and though not cheap, that seems to be a fair price. As such we can very much recommend the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO.


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are the gigabyte z68 ud4 and ud3p boards identical or am i missing something?
Looking at quick look at Gigabyte's site, the ud4 adds a coaxial S/PDIF out and a couple of eSATA connectors. Not sure what else is different.
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Then don't buy it ...no one is asking you to buy it...show us what your system rig is... and go pi$$ in your own back yard
Lol, wasn't trying to offend you, I did think the quoted text was amusing if taken as a complete argument for integrated graphics.

I'm between rigs, atm. Still missing parts needed to complete new one. Need motherboard, CPU and RAM. I'm currently deciding what premium I'm willing to pay for a Z68 board over a P67 one.

Bulldozer is not too far away either... as always the best time to build a pc is 6 months from now.
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Lol, wasn't trying to offend you, I did think the quoted text was amusing if taken as a complete argument for integrated graphics.

I'm between rigs, atm. Still missing parts needed to complete new one. Need motherboard, CPU and RAM. I'm currently deciding what premium I'm willing to pay for a Z68 board over a P67 one.

Bulldozer is not too far away either... as always the best time to build a pc is 6 months from now.
I apologize for jumping on you. You did not deserve that

I get a lot of flack from folks always telling me not to get the hardware I like coz all I do is surf the net...download bluray content and stream it to my home theater. I can get by on Pentium,but I don't want to. I like to upgrade often just because I can...not because I need to.

I'm an old fart...made my money years ago and now I like to buy stuff.

Apology accepted ?
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The integrated graphics are WAY faster than a card is at video transcoding
You'll have us believe that an IGP with 12 SPs is "way" faster than a dedicated graphics card with more than 300?

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And what's wrong with that? It's only a 10-20$ different according to your chart. Sounds like a deal to me
This isn't for people who have P67, this is for people who have yet to upgrade to anything Sandy Bridge
It's a 10$ difference for something that no one really needs.

Like having 8 USB 3.0 ports and calling it Z69.

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I'm an old fart...made my money years ago and now I like to buy stuff.
From everything you've said, I see no reason why you shouldn't go with H67.

You want an IGP and the ability to overclock to ~4.2Ghz.

That's what Turbo is for. Z68 is strictly for those who want 4.4Ghz+.

Which once again, proves that H67 + 600Mhz = Z68.
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You'll have us believe that an IGP with 12 SPs is "way" faster than a dedicated graphics card with more than 300?



It's a 10$ difference for something that no one really needs.

Like having 8 USB 3.0 ports and calling it Z69.



From everything you've said, I see no reason why you shouldn't go with H67.

You want an IGP and the ability to overclock to ~4.2Ghz.

That's what Turbo is for. Z68 is strictly for those who want 4.4Ghz+.

Which once again, proves that H67 + 600Mhz = Z68.
Track...you are flat out wrong yourself (as you so pointed out to me in post #377...and in post #378 you "hate" Z68). I realize that this is your tread,but that doesn't give you autonomy. Sir you are not the authority on anything that I can see. Just another member with an opinion...and I did not ask you for your opinion. "hate" Z68? What has it ever done to you? Run over your cat?

I posted that I want 4.3/4.4 Ghz and that is a minimum ...I think with my cooling I can get that much or maybe 4.5 ..and I don't plan on feeding it a lot of volts to get there. My choice, not yours and I don't appreciate you telling me what I should get...because it suits you.

What don't you understand about people wanting what they want...and not being wrong for wanting something that doesn't suit you? I have plenty of money and I spend it how I want..on what I want.

I don't mind one bit that you prefer another product, but I think your New York bully personality is showing.

Gotta go as the UPS man delivered my worthless Mobo a while ago and I want to play with it. H68...no thanks
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