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Originally Posted by Erper;14476039 
p8p67 pro, here i come...

also, would 500w be enough to supply mobo, i5 2500k

a quality 500w PSU would be able to run CF 6850s. This would do very nicely: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030


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Wow, Google really messed up. It's been un-editable for over a month now! eek.gif

I've added two links to edit the spreadsheet. I hope everyone fills in for the lost time biggrin.gif

LOL let me know if you need any help with that spreadsheet. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by munaim1;14477992 
a quality 500w PSU would be able to run CF 6850s. This would do very nicely: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

I'd say, if you're going for a new PSU, get 600w+. You'll likely need it in the future.

Personally, I like OCZ for the mid-how range, as they have excellent prices, and Silverstone for the top-end.

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LOL let me know if you need any help with that spreadsheet. biggrin.gif

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i have jeantech 500w and so far it served me good.. with OCed q9550 and memory it worked flawlessly...
as ive noticed that p8p67 have 24pix + 4x4 pin for power, what would benefint be comparing to my current one as i have just one 4 pix for power
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Originally Posted by Erper;14478068 
i have jeantech 500w and so far it served me good.. with OCed q9550 and memory it worked flawlessly...
as ive noticed that p8p67 have 24pix + 4x4 pin for power, what would benefint be comparing to my current one as i have just one 4 pix for power

You mean (2) x 4-pin plug for the CPU?

I suppose you could run a 2500k on 4-pins. It likely won't take more power than an overclocked Q9550.

I run my Q6600 on a 4-pin.
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I have a question: What does lack VRM Power mean? Why does the ATX asrock pro3 have no vrm power and the pro3m does? Thanks
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I am just looking for a solid performer in the $150 range. I will have i5 2500K and EVGA GTX 465.

I'm good at choosing what I need based on specs (like RAM, CPU, GPU), but I find MOBO boards to be very confusing.

I wanted a BIOSTAR P67 TP67XE but it has no HDMI. Is the mini-HDMI on the EVGA 465 good enough?
Edited by jamor - 8/9/11 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by John`;14519463 
I have a question: What does lack VRM Power mean? Why does the ATX asrock pro3 have no vrm power and the pro3m does? Thanks

In the table, all the Z68 motherboards are directly below their P67 relatives. Where the "Notes" column has an entry for a Z68 motherboard, that note is a quick summary of what the manufacturer sacrificed (or added) when they made the above P67 board design into a Z68. In the specific case you mentioned, the P67 Pro3 has 10 phase VRMs, whilst the Z68 Pro3 has 4 phase VRMs. Hence, the Z58 Pro3 lacks (has less) VRM power in comparison to the P67 Pro3.

Instead of checking out the notes to make a comparison between differing Z68 motherboards, look through the actual specs which are also in the spreadsheet.

VRMs are generally only important to overclockers and people looking to upgrade their processors or buy future-proof motherboards for that purpose. My understanding is the more phases the better, since it promotes stability of CPU voltages under load, but as with most things there's a point of diminishing returns. I doubt 24 phase VRMs would be noticeably different from 20 phase, while 10 phase might be much better than 4 phase.

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Originally Posted by jamor;14519844 
Is the mini-HDMI on the EVGA 465 good enough?


Yes, I think. You won't want the HDMI on a motherboard if you're using discreet graphics (unless you plan on using LucidLogic's Virtu stuff. Go ahead and google that if you're interested).

IMHO, choosing a motherboard for 1155 is quite simple. Do you need to overclock? (I'll assume yes) Z68 or P67. Do you need Virtu? (I'll assume no) P67.
Then pick other stuff like whether you want RAID , SLI / Crossfire [You don't] etc. as well as how many expansion slots you need. Then think about which of the above you might find yourself wanting in the future. Once you've worked out what you'll want, pick the cheapest one. (That's how I do it, they're all of a muchness). [If you really wanted to stick to your budget, then pick the one closest to $150 that satisfies your criteria]

(It was a little more complicated for me: I've ended up with only 3 choices of Z68 motherboard for my spec because I wanted to use Virtu and 4 PCI-E cards. Some of the manufacturers had chosen layouts that favour PCI cards, which wouldn't leave enough PCI-E 1x slots (they get covered by graphics card coolers >.<). With only one graphics this won't be a problem for you).

Edited by zsolmanz - 8/9/11 at 10:53am
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Thank you for clearing that up for me. I knew about VRMs but didn't know that the chart was layed out based on the previous models. I reckon 4 phases is enough for 4.5GHz yes? Thank you. +Rep
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Originally Posted by zsolmanz;14520744 
In the table, all the Z68 motherboards are directly below their P67 relatives. Where the "Notes" column has an entry for a Z68 motherboard, that note is a quick summary of what the manufacturer sacrificed (or added) when they made the above P67 board design into a Z68. In the specific case you mentioned, the P67 Pro3 has 10 phase VRMs, whilst the Z68 Pro3 has 4 phase VRMs. Hence, the Z58 Pro3 lacks (has less) VRM power in comparison to the P67 Pro3.

Instead of checking out the notes to make a comparison between differing Z68 motherboards, look through the actual specs which are also in the spreadsheet.

VRMs are generally only important to overclockers and people looking to upgrade their processors or buy future-proof motherboards for that purpose. My understanding is the more phases the better, since it promotes stability of CPU voltages under load, but as with most things there's a point of diminishing returns. I doubt 24 phase VRMs would be noticeably different from 20 phase, while 10 phase might be much better than 4 phase.

Great info and helpful post.

Does VRM pertain to CPU overclocking only (opposed to GPU overclocking)?
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Originally Posted by zsolmanz;14520744 
Yes, I think. You won't want the HDMI on a motherboard if you're using discreet graphics (unless you plan on using LucidLogic's Virtu stuff. Go ahead and google that if you're interested).

IMHO, choosing a motherboard for 1155 is quite simple. Do you need to overclock? (I'll assume yes) Z68 or P67. Do you need Virtu? (I'll assume no) P67.
Then pick other stuff like whether you want RAID , SLI / Crossfire [You don't] etc. as well as how many expansion slots you need. Then think about which of the above you might find yourself wanting in the future. Once you've worked out what you'll want, pick the cheapest one. (That's how I do it, they're all of a muchness). [If you really wanted to stick to your budget, then pick the one closest to $150 that satisfies your criteria]

(It was a little more complicated for me: I've ended up with only 3 choices of Z68 motherboard for my spec because I wanted to use Virtu and 4 PCI-E cards. Some of the manufacturers had chosen layouts that favour PCI cards, which wouldn't leave enough PCI-E 1x slots (they get covered by graphics card coolers >.<). With only one graphics this won't be a problem for you).

Yes I'll likely overclock it. I probably won't use virtu. I don't know what SLI or Crossfire - is it for professional gamers or professional graphics/vido editors? If so I won't need it. I doubt I will RAID.

My gpu will most likely be a EVGA GTX465 which I will need to overclock myself. CPU will be the i5 2500K Sandy too.

I do want to future proof however as I'd like to keep my parts as long as I can.

BIOSTAR TP67XE (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard seems like the best deal. $125

Does manufacturer matter or are they all pretty equal?
Edited by jamor - 8/9/11 at 2:26pm
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What is PCI Express 3.0 and do we need it?
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