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Originally Posted by Track View Post
As for which choke goes where, that is irrelevant.

I count the amount of chokes, not what they do.

I suppose I could differentiate it for every board - CPU, GPU, RAM, etc.

But since you can get 5.0Ghz on 4 chokes, I hardly see the need to knit pick.
Higher phase VRM also runs cooler, and cooler MOSFETs are often more energy efficient. Since the majority of power consumption is from the CPU I think knowing the CPU phase count is important.
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I'm in need of some help. I really like the ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3, I like the pci spacing, and seems to have somewhat of a future proof. (not that there is any such thing) I've always run amd-ati video cards. I have the hd 6950. Great card, just the fan is too loud cooling it. I'll upgrade soon to Accelero XTREME Plus II. Unless I make the switch to nvidia- 570 or 580. So tell me, do they run cooler, QUIETER. I know i'd be able to run 3way sli, or just work with what I have and go 2way crossfire. I guess what i'm asking is would I need to put a after market cooler on the sli boards just like the crossfire....
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And once I figure that out. What about memory for the ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 board. I'd like to start with 2 each 8gb sticks so at some point have 4 sticks. (32gb) Is there something I need to look at with memory. I no just a bit about oc'n. I'd like to see 1600 or so.
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Higher phase VRM also runs cooler, and cooler MOSFETs are often more energy efficient. Since the majority of power consumption is from the CPU I think knowing the CPU phase count is important.
I agree that more chokes would cause each choke to be less used, and that would consequently lower its heat.

But to say it's more energy efficient, I doubt it. The CPU is still getting the same power, except now you have to channel it further, which can't be 100% efficient.

It likely would help overclocking and stability, but even at that.. we're talking about VRM - tiny chips that don't usually tend to get very hot. It's just not something to wrap your mind against

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I'm in need of some help. I really like the ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3, I like the pci spacing, and seems to have somewhat of a future proof. (not that there is any such thing) I've always run amd-ati video cards. I have the hd 6950. Great card, just the fan is too loud cooling it. I'll upgrade soon to Accelero XTREME Plus II. Unless I make the switch to nvidia- 570 or 580. So tell me, do they run cooler, QUIETER. I know i'd be able to run 3way sli, or just work with what I have and go 2way crossfire. I guess what i'm asking is would I need to put a after market cooler on the sli boards just like the crossfire....
Well, I always say - Buy Gigabyte and ASUS before Asrock, but.. so many people are choosing Asrock and appear to be happy with their purchase.
All I can ask is that people read the sticky and apply their needs to it, so if you're doing that, I'm sure you'll be perfectly well off.
There's really not that much difference between the boards anyway

As for the GPU, well.. if you're going to be getting GTX 580 Triple-SLi, you might as well buy watercooling for your HD 6950 Crossfire.
Why? Because GTX 580s are marked up 100%. If you've seen the newest BF3 benchmarks, an unlocked HD 6950 gets the same frame-rate as a GTX 580.
And it costs 250$ to the 580's 500$.
So really, you could put that 500$ to a very nice watercooling rig that will keep your ears from burning for the next decade

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And once I figure that out. What about memory for the ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 board. I'd like to start with 2 each 8gb sticks so at some point have 4 sticks. (32gb) Is there something I need to look at with memory. I no just a bit about oc'n. I'd like to see 1600 or so.
I'm sorry, but 8GB sticks still cost about 500$ each.
You'll have to make do with 4GB sticks. G.Skill is always best in my book.
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I agree that more chokes would cause each choke to be less used, and that would consequently lower its heat.

But to say it's more energy efficient, I doubt it. The CPU is still getting the same power, except now you have to channel it further, which can't be 100% efficient.

It likely would help overclocking and stability, but even at that.. we're talking about VRM - tiny chips that don't usually tend to get very hot. It's just not something to wrap your mind against
http://www.gigabyte.com/microsite/98...ble-3.htm?n=d3

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Ferrite core chokes have higher energy efficiency compared to the commonly used iron core chokes because they are able to store energy longer and prevent rapid energy loss at high frequency. Lower RDS(on) MOSFETs have a lower resistance, which reduces power consumption and heat generation.
MOSFETs can get very hot... that's why they have heatsinks!
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http://www.gigabyte.com/microsite/98...ble-3.htm?n=d3



MOSFETs can get very hot... that's why they have heatsinks!
I wouldn't take that advertisement too seriously if I were you.

MOSFETs, yes, but the chokes, which are outlined in a succession right on the outskirts of the MOSFET do fine without extra cooling.

That's why it's so easy to count them.
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So GA-Z68XP-UD3P have 12 phase for cpu +4 for igpu which should i get ? or ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3
And MSI Z68A-GD55(G3) has 9 phase (6+2+1) 6 for cpu not 8 as write here
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So GA-Z68XP-UD3P have 12 phase for cpu +4 for igpu which should i get ? or ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3
And MSI Z68A-GD55(G3) has 9 phase (6+2+1) 6 for cpu not 8 as write here
Hey Luka.

I'm in the process of writing a FAQ that explains his veritable.

Basically, the VRM power does not matter. You could get away with 4.

You should aim for 6+ just to be on the super-safe side and choose the board based on the other components.

Track.
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Just wanted to do a last minute check before I purchase a new mobo. I'm going to be getting a P67 board & a 2500k. I'll be overclocking, running 2 6970's XFire'd & mainly gaming. Which one is better for my needs?? Asus Sabertooth P67 or Asus P8P67 Pro.

Is there any goods & bads between the 2?

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Just wanted to do a last minute check before I purchase a new mobo. I'm going to be getting a P67 board & a 2500k. I'll be overclocking, running 2 6970's XFire'd & mainly gaming. Which one is better for my needs?? Asus Sabertooth P67 or Asus P8P67 Pro.

Is there any goods & bads between the 2?

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