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post #1 of 33
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A few days ago i buy a new GPU (AFOX 250 GTS 1GB DDR3) and PSU
(MS - PRO-550ATX 2.03 P4 (550w))...

I have a problem when playing some game... any game (DIRT2, FIFA 11, RESIDENT EVIL 5, CoD... etc.)

While playing, monitor is turning off (orange power light) and the sound is freezing... i try to get out with CTRL-ALT-DELETE, ALT-TAB, START button... but the pc is not reacting and i have to restart it. Once i find it freezed while was idle. The temperature of the hardware is normal i think... but proseccor voltage is lower than avrage... My friend had this problem too and for a week his PSU burned... I never had this problem before i buy the new GPU and PSU... i don't think that the problem is software... confused.gif

Im running windows xp sp3

My configuration is:

Biostar A780L3 Motherboard
DualCore AMD Athlon II X2 240 CPU
2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM
1 x 320 GB HDD
1 x DVD-RW DRIVE

and the new hardwares

AFOX 250 GTS 1GB DDR3 GPU
MS - PRO-550ATX 2.03 P4 PSU


21295172769.


Please help and sorry for my english and sorry if i open a post in wrong place... frown.gif
post #2 of 33
most software (unless built via the manufacture).. doesn't read voltages correctly

i mean one bit of software said my CPU was running a 26v lol

Since you have a AMD... download AMD Overdrive

it is good at monitoring AMD chipssets
post #3 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hodgoes2001;12029022 
most software (unless built via the manufacture).. doesn't read voltages correctly

i mean one bit of software said my CPU was running a 26v lol

Since you have a AMD... download AMD Overdrive

it is good at monitoring AMD chipssets

Thanks for reply.. i installed the AMD Overdrive software and get this result...

31295177993.

this is the voltage when i don't touch nothing... with a few programs running in background... when i do something opening windows, applications... it goes higher 1.28, 1.43...

...the think that confuse me is +2.5 V = 1.10 V while other voltages are correct...

Anyway IMO the problem may be the graphic card... because the monitor is turning off... but mabye the psu is not giving enough power to card...

I googled my problem and find a lot like mine but for none has a specific and corect solution for the problem only some solution for vista and amd phenom, and one case that solvet his problem by reinstalling games from partition D to C... i always install games in D... previously have 3 gpu's 8500, 8600 and 9500 but i havent got any problem at all.
post #4 of 33
That's probably just Cool'n'Quiet. It just reduces your CPU frequency and voltage in order to save power and reduce your temperatures at idle. When you do something that is CPU intensive your clock and voltage should jump back up to normal. If you want to disable it you can do so in bios.
There are alot of possible causes. I assume you were using your onboard video before you upgraded to the GTS250? Did you make sure you got rid of ever instance of ATI drivers before you installed the nVidia drivers? Do you ever get any video driver errors? I've seen people have lots of problems when switching from ATI to nVidia in the past. It could be hardware but right now let's focus on the easiest fix.
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post #5 of 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Jackson;12029809 
That's probably just Cool'n'Quiet. It just reduces your CPU frequency and voltage in order to save power and reduce your temperatures at idle. When you do something that is CPU intensive your clock and voltage should jump back up to normal. If you want to disable it you can do so in bios.
There are alot of possible causes. I assume you were using your onboard video before you upgraded to the GTS250? Did you make sure you got rid of ever instance of ATI drivers before you installed the nVidia drivers? Do you ever get any video driver errors? I've seen people have lots of problems when switching from ATI to nVidia in the past. It could be hardware but right now let's focus on the easiest fix.

Yes i used the onboard before upgrade... but after upgrade i reinstall the OS... all from start... first thing after formating i install the video driver, latest, downloaded from the nvidia official website... then audio driver, chipset driver and LAN driver, and driver for the processor... Never had errors or some software problems...


I have a new update of my problem... i played Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare and the screen start do show randomly peoples faces, objests, change colors... and when press the Esc button the game menu appears and pc freezes and the screen was like less quality like 16 or 8-bit...
post #6 of 33
Have you tried installing a different driver? I'd atleast try a different driver before moving on to hardware.
Troubleshooting isn't a fun task when you've installed more than one component as there are alot of variables to consider. Do you have another rig to try the video card in? Possibly a friend's rig? That would be the easiest way to diagnose the problem. I've never heard of that power supply and can't find the specifications anywhere. How many amps does put out on the 3.3V, 5V, and 12V rails? I have a hard time believing that it would put out any less than 250W on the 12V rail, which would be sufficient to power your rig. Whether it's fuctioning properly or not is a totally different question. I'd ask you to run Furmark and OCCT to test your GPU and vmem but underpowering a card could cause false positives. I've seen situations where underpowering a card caused anything from no post to artifacts to random reboots so you really can't be 100% positive of anything.

The reason this is difficult is because if you remove the video card your system will put alot less stress/draw on the power supply and that may alleviate the problem. On the other hand if you stress the card, to test the gpu and vmem, you may get false positives because the card is being underpowered.
Edited by C.Jackson - 1/16/11 at 7:05am
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post #7 of 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Jackson;12030136 
Have you tried installing a different driver? I'd atleast try a different driver before moving on to hardware.
Troubleshooting isn't a fun task when you've installed more than one component as there are alot of variables to consider. Do you have another rig to try the video card in? Possibly a friend's rig? That would be the easiest way to diagnose the problem. I've never heard of that power supply and can't find the specifications anywhere. How many amps does put out on the 3.3V, 5V, and 12V rails? I have a hard time believing that it would put out any less than 250W on the 12V rail, which would be sufficient to power your rig. Whether it's fuctioning properly or not is a totally different question. I'd ask you to run Furmark and OCCT to test your GPU and vmem but underpowering a card could cause false positives. I've seen situations where underpowering a card caused anything from no post to artifacts to random reboots so you really can't be 100% positive of anything.

The reason this is difficult is because if you remove the video card your system will put alot less stress/draw on the power supply and that may alleviate the problem. On the other hand if you stress the card, to test the gpu and vmem, you may get false positives because the card is being underpowered.


I installed a different driver and till now i don't have any problem... hope bad driver was the problem...

Here's a pic from psu specs

untitl1295250632.jpg

and info
Code:
http://www.ms-start.com/int/default.aspx?tabid=2102&newsType=ArticleView&articleId=1355

I have one more question... when buy the card and play the first 1, 2 days the gameplay fast and smoothly, and it was a huge difference compared to my latest 9500GT, but after a few days the games starts skipping from time to time... on NFS Hot Pursuit 2, Call of Duty MW, FIFA 11, Dirt 2... (on max. settings and resolution at 1280x1024)... is it because of my configuration...
Quote:
Biostar A780L3 Motherboard
DualCore AMD Athlon II X2 240 CPU
2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM
1 x 320 GB HDD
1 x DVD-RW DRIVE
AFOX 250 GTS 1GB DDR3 GPU
MS - PRO-550ATX 2.03 P4 PSU
or i should try different OS... currently running on WinXP PRO SP3.... mabye i should try Win7...

I suposed to run the 7 a long time ago but i have one problem with 7 that bother's me a lot... it's the sound... it's very weaker and more quiet compared with XP, plus there's no Realtek EQ, the WMP EQ is giving very bad changes to sound... whan using it the sound starts to be loud-quiet, loud-quiet, at randomly close time... i tryed to change the audio driver but it wasn't any change in sound... "music is my life" and it really bother me sound that gives Win7.

2nd thing theres no Nvidia Control Panel (to make custom resolution) (or im mistaking?)

DID ANYONE ON WIN7 HAVE THIS "PROBLEM" WITH THE SOUND OR IT'S JUST IN MY CASE?

Thanks for all answers, Bye.
post #8 of 33
16A means you've got about 192W at your disposal on the 12V rail. Your CPU, video card, hard drive, ect. are pulling from that so let's run this down. The TDP of the GTS 250 is 150W, your Athlon X2 240 is 65W, and your hard drive might draw about 7W. This is the problem with cheap power supplies, they provide most of their power from the 3.3V and 5V rails. Which are both useless for your CPU and video card, the two most power hungry objects in your computer. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the problem wasn't related to your power supply as it's way overloaded. For comparison sake, while your power supply can only provide 192W on the 12V rail a 550W Corsair power supply can provide up to 41A or 492W. Whether it's the problem or not I'd definately be replacing that thing ASAP before it dies and takes something with it.
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post #9 of 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C.Jackson;12040704 
16A means you've got about 192W at your disposal on the 12V rail. Your CPU, video card, hard drive, ect. are pulling from that so let's run this down. The TDP of the GTS 250 is 150W, your Athlon X2 240 is 65W, and your hard drive might draw about 7W. This is the problem with cheap power supplies, they provide most of their power from the 3.3V and 5V rails. Which are both useless for your CPU and video card, the two most power hungry objects in your computer. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the problem wasn't related to your power supply as it's way overloaded. For comparison sake, while your power supply can only provide 192W on the 12V rail a 550W Corsair power supply can provide up to 41A or 492W. Whether it's the problem or not I'd definately be replacing that thing ASAP before it dies and takes something with it.

What about this PSU?

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post #10 of 33
Where are u from? That power is no good also. Give us a location and we can find u a better PSU in ur area.
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