Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel CPUs › Tjmax of the q6600? (g0)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Tjmax of the q6600? (g0) - Page 2

post #11 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by opt33;12029856 
You never will find a definitive answer on tjmax for Q6600. Intel published Tjmax targets, but stated that cpus were all calibrated higher than targets. Intels tjmax target was published as 90C. The ones that were measured by IR were closer to 100C. Hence the 90C vs 100C. Tcase (IHS) temp max is ~71C, nothing to do with tjmax. On one other note, no quad core cpu has a gradient from tjmax to IHS of only 19C, which again suggest 90C is impossible for tjmax for any Q6600.

Bottom line, no one knows for sure, not to mention it is irrelevant anyways. Just use distance to tjmax, it doesnt change.

On all i7 cpus and higher, the tjmax is software readable from cpu, so no more guessing what 5 or 10C was added on cpus between tjmax target and actual tjmax of cpu.

Agreed. Even though Intel stated it was 90C in one paper, it doesn't make much sense when you're looking at the load temps. 100C makes more sense, but like you said, it's irrelevant. Distance to tjmax should be the only value that really matters. I try to keep mine at a minimum of 25C for 24/7 folding, but I'm pretty sure 15C would be safe as well if the chip's stable.
Edited by aznofazns - 1/16/11 at 5:48am
LianLith
(20 items)
 
Microstone
(15 items)
 
Red Box
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 @ 4.225GHz w/ 1.344v, HT On Gigabyte X58A-OC 2 x HD 6950 2GB CrossfireX (Unlocked Shaders) 3 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3/US @ 2028 9-10-10-25 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2 x WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 WD300GLSA16100 short-stroked to 48.8GB Prolimatech Megahalems 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 HP ZR30w ABS M1 Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li V2120X Razer Diamondback 3G Steelseries 4D M-Audio BX5a Deluxe 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Samson SR850 VSonic GR07 MDPC-X sleeving 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 2550K @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.256v Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD5000BEKT Lite-On DC-8A4SH Slot-loading DVD Burner Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 OEM HP keyboard Seasonic X-750 Silverstone TJ08-E 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech LX3 Ratpadz GS Audioengine 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i3 530 @ 3.813GHz w/ 1.176v Asus P7H55D-M EVO Sapphire HD 5670 512MB @ 815/1025 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Sony Optiarc 24x DVD Burner Cooler Master GeminII S Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell S2009W Saitek Eclipse OCZ ModXStream 500W Lian Li V351R 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Diamondback Ratpadz GS Dell AY410 
  hide details  
Reply
LianLith
(20 items)
 
Microstone
(15 items)
 
Red Box
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 @ 4.225GHz w/ 1.344v, HT On Gigabyte X58A-OC 2 x HD 6950 2GB CrossfireX (Unlocked Shaders) 3 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3/US @ 2028 9-10-10-25 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2 x WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 WD300GLSA16100 short-stroked to 48.8GB Prolimatech Megahalems 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 HP ZR30w ABS M1 Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li V2120X Razer Diamondback 3G Steelseries 4D M-Audio BX5a Deluxe 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Samson SR850 VSonic GR07 MDPC-X sleeving 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 2550K @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.256v Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD5000BEKT Lite-On DC-8A4SH Slot-loading DVD Burner Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 OEM HP keyboard Seasonic X-750 Silverstone TJ08-E 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech LX3 Ratpadz GS Audioengine 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i3 530 @ 3.813GHz w/ 1.176v Asus P7H55D-M EVO Sapphire HD 5670 512MB @ 815/1025 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Sony Optiarc 24x DVD Burner Cooler Master GeminII S Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell S2009W Saitek Eclipse OCZ ModXStream 500W Lian Li V351R 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Diamondback Ratpadz GS Dell AY410 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by consume View Post
Alright so just to be sure, im changing everything to read distance from tjmax instead of current temperature. So making sure to keep it higher than 12c should be my goal when using prime/overclocking?

This is what it looks like now :



Maybe i should try going for 3.2...^_^
Based on my personal experience with my Q6600 G0 with VID 1.325v, Distance to tjmax of 12C is far too low for stability. You can test it yourself, but I found that I needed to keep it at ~20-25C to keep it stable, given that enough voltage was supplied to the CPU and other components.
LianLith
(20 items)
 
Microstone
(15 items)
 
Red Box
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 @ 4.225GHz w/ 1.344v, HT On Gigabyte X58A-OC 2 x HD 6950 2GB CrossfireX (Unlocked Shaders) 3 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3/US @ 2028 9-10-10-25 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2 x WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 WD300GLSA16100 short-stroked to 48.8GB Prolimatech Megahalems 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 HP ZR30w ABS M1 Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li V2120X Razer Diamondback 3G Steelseries 4D M-Audio BX5a Deluxe 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Samson SR850 VSonic GR07 MDPC-X sleeving 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 2550K @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.256v Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD5000BEKT Lite-On DC-8A4SH Slot-loading DVD Burner Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 OEM HP keyboard Seasonic X-750 Silverstone TJ08-E 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech LX3 Ratpadz GS Audioengine 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i3 530 @ 3.813GHz w/ 1.176v Asus P7H55D-M EVO Sapphire HD 5670 512MB @ 815/1025 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Sony Optiarc 24x DVD Burner Cooler Master GeminII S Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell S2009W Saitek Eclipse OCZ ModXStream 500W Lian Li V351R 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Diamondback Ratpadz GS Dell AY410 
  hide details  
Reply
LianLith
(20 items)
 
Microstone
(15 items)
 
Red Box
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 @ 4.225GHz w/ 1.344v, HT On Gigabyte X58A-OC 2 x HD 6950 2GB CrossfireX (Unlocked Shaders) 3 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3/US @ 2028 9-10-10-25 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2 x WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 WD300GLSA16100 short-stroked to 48.8GB Prolimatech Megahalems 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 HP ZR30w ABS M1 Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li V2120X Razer Diamondback 3G Steelseries 4D M-Audio BX5a Deluxe 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Samson SR850 VSonic GR07 MDPC-X sleeving 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 2550K @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.256v Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD5000BEKT Lite-On DC-8A4SH Slot-loading DVD Burner Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 OEM HP keyboard Seasonic X-750 Silverstone TJ08-E 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech LX3 Ratpadz GS Audioengine 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i3 530 @ 3.813GHz w/ 1.176v Asus P7H55D-M EVO Sapphire HD 5670 512MB @ 815/1025 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Sony Optiarc 24x DVD Burner Cooler Master GeminII S Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell S2009W Saitek Eclipse OCZ ModXStream 500W Lian Li V351R 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Diamondback Ratpadz GS Dell AY410 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by consume View Post
Alright so just to be sure, im changing everything to read distance from tjmax instead of current temperature. So making sure to keep it higher than 12c should be my goal when using prime/overclocking?

Maybe i should try going for 3.2...^_^
I wouldn't go over 70C on core at all time (even in stress tests like IBT or P95)..

Now you've set temp offset to -10 but your Tjmax is still 100C so at 12C to Tjmax your CPU would be running at 98C in real life...

I would adjust -10C offset and go with 70C as my max core temperature in any application..

CHEERS..
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 G0 @ 3.3GHz (1.25V LOAD) Asus P5KPL-VM G31 GeForce 8500GT @ 700/1600/445 Apacer 2x1GB 800MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB (7200,8MB) LG DVD Win 7 Ultimate 64bit build 7601 LG 19" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
5$ keyboard Cheap stuff Linkworld crappy/modded SmartBox cheap 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 G0 @ 3.3GHz (1.25V LOAD) Asus P5KPL-VM G31 GeForce 8500GT @ 700/1600/445 Apacer 2x1GB 800MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB (7200,8MB) LG DVD Win 7 Ultimate 64bit build 7601 LG 19" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
5$ keyboard Cheap stuff Linkworld crappy/modded SmartBox cheap 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aznofazns View Post
Based on my personal experience with my Q6600 G0 with VID 1.325v, Distance to tjmax of 12C is far too low for stability. You can test it yourself, but I found that I needed to keep it at ~20-25C to keep it stable, given that enough voltage was supplied to the CPU and other components.
Ok..yeah i ran prime95 for about 5 minutes and the distance dropped to 19-20c lol. :S

Two cores errored out at 1.255v @ 3ghz so i bumped it back up to stock vcore and yeah...temps got way too high.
Core i5
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.7Ghz Asus P8P67 Rev 3.0 EVGA GTX 580 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 2TB None Windows 7 64-bit ASUS VH242H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair 750 TX Corsair 500R Black Logitech G500 
Mouse Pad
QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
Core i5
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.7Ghz Asus P8P67 Rev 3.0 EVGA GTX 580 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 2TB None Windows 7 64-bit ASUS VH242H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair 750 TX Corsair 500R Black Logitech G500 
Mouse Pad
QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 68
Upgrade CPU cooling as stock Intel cooler is not good for OCing especially Q6600..

Keep your core temps under 70C at all time (Tjmax @ 90C),or 80C without -10C offset in CoreTemp..

CHEERS..
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 G0 @ 3.3GHz (1.25V LOAD) Asus P5KPL-VM G31 GeForce 8500GT @ 700/1600/445 Apacer 2x1GB 800MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB (7200,8MB) LG DVD Win 7 Ultimate 64bit build 7601 LG 19" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
5$ keyboard Cheap stuff Linkworld crappy/modded SmartBox cheap 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 G0 @ 3.3GHz (1.25V LOAD) Asus P5KPL-VM G31 GeForce 8500GT @ 700/1600/445 Apacer 2x1GB 800MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi Deskstar 160GB (7200,8MB) LG DVD Win 7 Ultimate 64bit build 7601 LG 19" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
5$ keyboard Cheap stuff Linkworld crappy/modded SmartBox cheap 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by consume View Post
Ok..yeah i ran prime95 for about 5 minutes and the distance dropped to 19-20c lol. :S

Two cores errored out at 1.255v @ 3ghz so i bumped it back up to stock vcore and yeah...temps got way too high.
You're definitely going to need a better CPU heatsink if you want to overclock to 3.0GHz or higher.

There's currently an amazing deal on Newegg for a Xigmatek Dark Knight for $16 after rebate and promo code EMCYTZT260. That will easily take you to 3.4GHz. I was able to hit 3.6GHz on my Q6600 + Xigmatek HDT-1283 cooler, which is nearly identical to the DK. I ended up dropping it to 3.46GHz for 24/7 use.
LianLith
(20 items)
 
Microstone
(15 items)
 
Red Box
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 @ 4.225GHz w/ 1.344v, HT On Gigabyte X58A-OC 2 x HD 6950 2GB CrossfireX (Unlocked Shaders) 3 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3/US @ 2028 9-10-10-25 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2 x WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 WD300GLSA16100 short-stroked to 48.8GB Prolimatech Megahalems 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 HP ZR30w ABS M1 Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li V2120X Razer Diamondback 3G Steelseries 4D M-Audio BX5a Deluxe 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Samson SR850 VSonic GR07 MDPC-X sleeving 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 2550K @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.256v Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD5000BEKT Lite-On DC-8A4SH Slot-loading DVD Burner Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 OEM HP keyboard Seasonic X-750 Silverstone TJ08-E 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech LX3 Ratpadz GS Audioengine 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i3 530 @ 3.813GHz w/ 1.176v Asus P7H55D-M EVO Sapphire HD 5670 512MB @ 815/1025 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Sony Optiarc 24x DVD Burner Cooler Master GeminII S Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell S2009W Saitek Eclipse OCZ ModXStream 500W Lian Li V351R 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Diamondback Ratpadz GS Dell AY410 
  hide details  
Reply
LianLith
(20 items)
 
Microstone
(15 items)
 
Red Box
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 970 @ 4.225GHz w/ 1.344v, HT On Gigabyte X58A-OC 2 x HD 6950 2GB CrossfireX (Unlocked Shaders) 3 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3/US @ 2028 9-10-10-25 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Intel 520 Series Cherryville 180GB 2 x WD6400AAKS in RAID 0 WD300GLSA16100 short-stroked to 48.8GB Prolimatech Megahalems 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 HP ZR30w ABS M1 Seasonic X-650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li V2120X Razer Diamondback 3G Steelseries 4D M-Audio BX5a Deluxe 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Samson SR850 VSonic GR07 MDPC-X sleeving 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 2550K @ 4.2GHz w/ 1.256v Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 1.5V 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD5000BEKT Lite-On DC-8A4SH Slot-loading DVD Burner Corsair H60 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1 OEM HP keyboard Seasonic X-750 Silverstone TJ08-E 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech LX3 Ratpadz GS Audioengine 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i3 530 @ 3.813GHz w/ 1.176v Asus P7H55D-M EVO Sapphire HD 5670 512MB @ 815/1025 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600 9-9-9-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 500GB Sony Optiarc 24x DVD Burner Cooler Master GeminII S Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell S2009W Saitek Eclipse OCZ ModXStream 500W Lian Li V351R 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Diamondback Ratpadz GS Dell AY410 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 68
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aznofazns View Post
You're definitely going to need a better CPU heatsink if you want to overclock to 3.0GHz or higher.

There's currently an amazing deal on Newegg for a Xigmatek Dark Knight for $16 after rebate and promo code EMCYTZT260. That will easily take you to 3.4GHz. I was able to hit 3.6GHz on my Q6600 + Xigmatek HDT-1283 cooler, which is nearly identical to the DK. I ended up dropping it to 3.46GHz for 24/7 use.
Ah, that does look good but i purchased the cooler master hyper tx3, it should be here soon. How would you compare it to the dk?

Also, im not using the stock hs, im using the one that came with my oem e6320:



Is that better or worse than the stock?
Edited by consume - 1/16/11 at 6:05am
Core i5
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.7Ghz Asus P8P67 Rev 3.0 EVGA GTX 580 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 2TB None Windows 7 64-bit ASUS VH242H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair 750 TX Corsair 500R Black Logitech G500 
Mouse Pad
QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
Core i5
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k @ 4.7Ghz Asus P8P67 Rev 3.0 EVGA GTX 580 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Seagate 2TB None Windows 7 64-bit ASUS VH242H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair 750 TX Corsair 500R Black Logitech G500 
Mouse Pad
QCK+ 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 68
I wouldn't consider it safe to have any processor running hot enough to boil water...
My Core 2 Machine
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz E6600 Intel DQ965GF SAPPHIRE ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 4x1GB Kingston DDR2-400 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 250GB SATA, 250GB STECH Simple Drive DVD/CD Combo Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Dell 17" LCD 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 18" LCD CM Storm QuickFire Rapid (Cherry MX Blue) 500W Rosewill Stallion RD 500-2SB XIGMATEK Pure Black 
MouseMouse Pad
IBM Track Point L40 Sikorsky360 Mousepad 
  hide details  
Reply
My Core 2 Machine
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz E6600 Intel DQ965GF SAPPHIRE ATI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 4x1GB Kingston DDR2-400 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 250GB SATA, 250GB STECH Simple Drive DVD/CD Combo Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Dell 17" LCD 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell 18" LCD CM Storm QuickFire Rapid (Cherry MX Blue) 500W Rosewill Stallion RD 500-2SB XIGMATEK Pure Black 
MouseMouse Pad
IBM Track Point L40 Sikorsky360 Mousepad 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by aznofazns View Post
Agreed. Even though Intel stated it was 90C in one paper, it doesn't make much sense when you're looking at the load temps. 100C makes more sense, but like you said, it's irrelevant. Distance to tjmax should be the only value that really matters. I try to keep mine at a minimum of 25C for 24/7 folding, but I'm pretty sure 15C would be safe as well if the chip's stable.
He had it right. You have it wrong. You are guesstimating that 100°C load makes sense without testing it. The TJ Max targets are the TJ Max value for the majority of CPUs, but not all. That is why they are targets and not absolutes. However, you are correct that the Dist to TJ Max is really the value to look at.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aznofazns View Post
Based on my personal experience with my Q6600 G0 with VID 1.325v, Distance to tjmax of 12C is far too low for stability. You can test it yourself, but I found that I needed to keep it at ~20-25C to keep it stable, given that enough voltage was supplied to the CPU and other components.
In my experience with a q6600 G0 with a VID 1.28750v (lol), Dist to TJ Max of 12C worked fine all the way up to 3.8ghz at which point I couldn't fully stabilize. I got it a little cooler to Dist=20C and I started passing all of the tests I failed at Dist=12C. This distinction is however something he more than likely won't have to make as most chips can't do 3.8ghz.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingT View Post
I wouldn't go over 70C on core at all time (even in stress tests like IBT or P95)..

Now you've set temp offset to -10 but your Tjmax is still 100C so at 12C to Tjmax your CPU would be running at 98C in real life...

I would adjust -10C offset and go with 70C as my max core temperature in any application..

CHEERS..
You math is a little off there. If TJ Max is 100°C (which it isn't) then 100-12 is still 88°C not 98°C. And since the TJ Max is 90°C a Dist of 12 creates 78°C as an upper limit. The offset of -10°C is correct, but I feel you are being a little conservative with the temp. The intel numbers have always been very conservative and realistically a Dist=0 would probablly be safe in 99% of the cases but very unstabe.
Quote:
Originally Posted by consume View Post
Ok..yeah i ran prime95 for about 5 minutes and the distance dropped to 19-20c lol. :S

Two cores errored out at 1.255v @ 3ghz so i bumped it back up to stock vcore and yeah...temps got way too high.
Stock Cooling has got to go. It wasn't designed to be overclocked on. If you had run the test longer it just would have kept getting higher.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Computer-Lab in Basement View Post
I wouldn't consider it safe to have any processor running hot enough to boil water...
Actually water boils at 100°C and he isn't near that...and realistically there isn't any water in a CPU, what would go bad by putting it up to that. (Silicone degrades at 120°C)
Gaming PC / HTPC
(17 items)
 
Bedroom PC
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Prime Z270-A GB Auros-X 1080 Ti G-Skill (2x8gb) 3000mhz  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 850 Western Digital 5900rpm Seagate 7200rpm LG 22x DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-D14 Win 10 x64 Pro LG 55" 4k B6 OLED Microsoft Desktop 400 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX750 V2 NZXT Source 210 Microsoft Desktop 400 Black 
Audio
Custom Surround 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2120T Biostar H61MH Intel HD 2000 G-Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 128gb Asus 24x DVD Burner Stock Win 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 40" 1080p HP Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Silverstone 400W ST40F-ES Silverstone ML03B 
Other
Linksys WMP600N Wireless Card 
  hide details  
Reply
Gaming PC / HTPC
(17 items)
 
Bedroom PC
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Prime Z270-A GB Auros-X 1080 Ti G-Skill (2x8gb) 3000mhz  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 850 Western Digital 5900rpm Seagate 7200rpm LG 22x DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Noctua NH-D14 Win 10 x64 Pro LG 55" 4k B6 OLED Microsoft Desktop 400 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX750 V2 NZXT Source 210 Microsoft Desktop 400 Black 
Audio
Custom Surround 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2120T Biostar H61MH Intel HD 2000 G-Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Evo 128gb Asus 24x DVD Burner Stock Win 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 40" 1080p HP Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Silverstone 400W ST40F-ES Silverstone ML03B 
Other
Linksys WMP600N Wireless Card 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 68
Ya there are tons of threads on this forum on overclocking the Q6600. Use the search function and you can get a lot of useful info about it.

I just ran prime overnight to test my 3.2ghz overclock @ 405x8, with 1.3000v and it seams to be running stable. Depending on how good your motherboard is you should be able to get the same clocks using lower multipliers, but this might require some more tinkering.

My temps with my True 120 are just over 50 degrees, or 66 degrees to the tj max on the highest core. Thats without offsets, but I'm not worried since a lot of overclocks on this forum use voltages much higher.

Using a 1-1 ratio my 800mhz ram is overclocked to 810mhz. Not much but I don't think my ram is that good anyway.

EDIT: Ya that hsf your using might as well be stock, you should defiantly look for something to upgrade it with if your serious about overclocking and getting reasonable temps.
i7 3820
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3820 AsRock X79 Extreme6 Sapphire 6950 2gb Sapphire 6950 2gb 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB)  Crucial M4 128gb LG HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Combo Drive Corsair H80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro 64bit Samsung XL2370 Cooler Master Quick Fire (cherry blues) Corsair TX850M 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Define R3 SS Xai SS 4HD Asus Xonar Essence ST 
  hide details  
Reply
i7 3820
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3820 AsRock X79 Extreme6 Sapphire 6950 2gb Sapphire 6950 2gb 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB)  Crucial M4 128gb LG HD-DVD/Blu-Ray Combo Drive Corsair H80 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro 64bit Samsung XL2370 Cooler Master Quick Fire (cherry blues) Corsair TX850M 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Define R3 SS Xai SS 4HD Asus Xonar Essence ST 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Intel CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel CPUs › Tjmax of the q6600? (g0)