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To be honest, 200-300 more MHz on a 3.2GHz Q6600 isn't going to make any noticeable difference in day to day activities or gaming. You might notice a small improvement in video encoding, folding, etc. but nothing really substantial.
Alright, i'll keep it at 3.2ghz then ^_^. I guess this will hold me over until i upgrade again.

Which leads me to one more question, at this point, would it be beneficial to get a new video card (gtx....570?) or switch over to the core iblahblah series?
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Depends on what games you play. GTX 260 core 216 is still a good performer for most titles out there today, at least at 1680x1050 res and lower.

You should probably save up and see how Bulldozer performs when it comes out in Q2 this year. If it's not that great, wait for Ivy Bridge. Then just pair that with whatever new GPU is out by that time. I usually go for the 2nd or 3rd fastest single GPU card of each generation for best bang for your buck.
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There's a reason both RealTemp and Core Temp use TJMax = 100C for the Q6600 G0. The numbers Intel released were half truths at best. They had nothing to do with TJMax. In the fine print, the numbers Intel released were called TJ Target and are completely meaningless. They were originally so bad that when the complaints got back to them, they decided to release a new set of official TJ Target numbers. These weren't much better than the first set they released.

Don't use offsets for RealTemp or Core Temp. By default, they are using TJMax values that are closest to the correct value. If anything, often times the dual core on the right (core 2 core 3 in RealTemp) can have an actual TJMax value close to 105C. That's usually why you will see your two sets of dual cores running at a slightly different temperature. Run Prime95 small FFTs for about 5 minutes and if you are air cooled, you will see what I mean.
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My Q6600 is a GO and my computer will blue screen and give me an error message "max temp exceeded" if it gets to 80c for more than a second.
    
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My Q6600 is a GO and my computer will blue screen and give me an error message "max temp exceeded" if it gets to 80c for more than a second.
While I have never had that happen to me. I am guessing that you have it set in your BIOS to shut off if the CPU reaches a certain temperature. I have set 80c for my Q6600 in the BIOS. I don't know how well it works, but it might be what is causing your errors.
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Does anyone have the issue where running the q6600 with the 8x multiplier reports 9x multi speeds in windows? For example, im at 412x8 and windows reads it as 3.6ghz (cpu-z,coretemp,realtemp,etc all read it fine) Should i be bothered by that?
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Does anyone have the issue where running the q6600 with the 8x multiplier reports 9x multi speeds in windows? For example, im at 412x8 and windows reads it as 3.6ghz (cpu-z,coretemp,realtemp,etc all read it fine) Should i be bothered by that?
Thats normal. Windows doesnt seem to know when you change the multi
    
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While I have never had that happen to me. I am guessing that you have it set in your BIOS to shut off if the CPU reaches a certain temperature. I have set 80c for my Q6600 in the BIOS. I don't know how well it works, but it might be what is causing your errors.
There is no such setting for this on my motherobard but maybe you are right and its just not something that can be diabled on this mobo. My mobo was pretty cheap.
    
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Just thought i'd report back and say i got 3.4ghz stable ^_^. Turns out, my ram was partially the culprit. With both ram sticks in, i'd bsod prime in about 2 lines of the small ffts test. I pulled one out, and it ran for 2 hours before i stopped it. Also, i couldn't boot into windows @ 3.6ghz even with up to 1.5 vcore. With one ram stick in, i could boot at 1.4v. It still failed prime95 within 10 minutes but still, i'm getting somewhere now.


Although, all the BSODs i get from prime are the same, 0x124. I've searched this for quite a while and it points to either a cpu error, low vcore and low vtt. I set fsb to 1.5 (max is 1.5) vcore to 1.5 and the nb to 1.4, still bsod instantly after starting prime. Maybe the cpu just can't reach 3.5-3.6?


Or is it the board? My motherboard doesn't have options like CPU PLL and i can only do +-.10v on the northbridge and fsb.
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At this point you should find the failure points of your mobo and RAM. Bump your multiple down to keep the CPU speed at 3.0 or less, and keep raising FSB till failure. Use the lowest RAM multiple you have available. You have 1066, so you should have plenty of headroom for FSB.

If your FSB is choking, you'll need to start tweaking BIOS settings and finding what makes it more stable. Then you can go back to overclocking the CPU.

The only catch here is that even though your RAM is rated for 1066, it may be failing at lower speeds because it doesn't play nice with your NB etc. If tweaking board settings isn't helping FSB max, you may want to look at more VDIMM or loosening your RAM timings.

What are you at for FSB and RAM right now?

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Just thought i'd report back and say i got 3.4ghz stable ^_^. Turns out, my ram was partially the culprit. With both ram sticks in, i'd bsod prime in about 2 lines of the small ffts test. I pulled one out, and it ran for 2 hours before i stopped it. Also, i couldn't boot into windows @ 3.6ghz even with up to 1.5 vcore. With one ram stick in, i could boot at 1.4v. It still failed prime95 within 10 minutes but still, i'm getting somewhere now.


Although, all the BSODs i get from prime are the same, 0x124. I've searched this for quite a while and it points to either a cpu error, low vcore and low vtt. I set fsb to 1.5 (max is 1.5) vcore to 1.5 and the nb to 1.4, still bsod instantly after starting prime. Maybe the cpu just can't reach 3.5-3.6?


Or is it the board? My motherboard doesn't have options like CPU PLL and i can only do +-.10v on the northbridge and fsb.
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