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A couple of weeks ago, I started a thread regarding my new HD4870 and how bad the FPS where in GTAIV. (found here)

Even though I kept telling people that it had NOTHING what so ever to do with my CPU, (E7500) I was repeatedly being told that it was my CPU and that I should upgrade despite the fact that I was running GTAIV better on a Pentium D with a 9800GT.

Well, just yesterday, I slapped in a XFX 1GB GTS250 and whaduno? The game runs flawlessly on medium-high settings @ 45-50FPS, with PhysX enabled.

Now, I'm not saying that the HD4870 is a bad card, as it was ran other games great (except Mafia II, and Black Ops) but the fact of that matter is, no matter how many times I tried to explain to people that I'm sure the problem lay with the GPU, I kept being told that I should "trust them" and that it was my CPU and that I should upgrade to a Quad.

Well, there you have it folks, the GTS250, which is way lower in spec to a 4870 OC, ran the game 10x better, with PhysX enabled. So from now on, instead of just dismissing the problem as a CPU fault, be sure to check that the GPU isn't a HD4870.

Pros? - Runs games like Mafia II and GTAIV way better.
Cons? - Runs around 10-15 degrees more then the 4870. (69 vs 55) Granted that the 4870 does have a custom Zerotherm heatsink.

Looks like I'll be on the hunt for a second GTS250 to go SLI with. A nice 120mm fan to cool those bad boys is a must. Anyone in the market for a semi-used OC'd HD4870? Custom Zerotherm heatsink included.
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I didnt think GTA4 supports hardware PhysX. But GTA4 seems to be one of those games that just favors Nvidia architecture.
Edited by BinaryDemon - 1/16/11 at 8:30am
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I didnt think GTA4 supports PhysX.
you're right it doesn't.......i say it's a driver issue.......GTS250>HD4870 ?.........ummmmm.......NO!........also......rig specs?
    
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I didnt think GTA4 supports hardware PhysX. But GTA4 seems to be one of those games that just favors Nvidia architecture.
You know what, you could be right. I think that may have been Mafia II. Nethertheless, still worked like a champ over the 4870.
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you're right it doesn't.......i say it's a driver issue.......GTS250>HD4870 ?.........ummmmm.......NO!........also......rig specs?
I sat for weeks uninstalling, reinstalling, patching, de-patching drivers and patches just to see if it helped any. No no and no. Infact, I think it got worse the more I patched up, and going back to older drivers seemed to have improved the FPS by like... 1. I also tried running in Windows XP mode, which I think kinda helped it a bit, but I'm not to sure.

Rig spec: E7500 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB DDR2, TX750.
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http://www.overclock.net/12030246-post18.html

and the following video is at 2048x1536 downsampled to 1024x768.


Drivers my friend, for one game.
    
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Originally Posted by gamervivek View Post
http://www.overclock.net/12030246-post18.html

and the following video is at 2048x1536 downsampled to 1024x768.

Drivers my friend, for one game.
Yes but, what is your setup, what drivers, and what patch did you manage that on?
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do you have a spare hdd?........can you install a fresh version of windows on it, update it, directX, new drivers and the game.......outcome should provide some answers
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gamervivek View Post
http://www.overclock.net/12030246-post18.html

and the following video is at 2048x1536 downsampled to 1024x768.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICOjaJhHpo

Drivers my friend, for one game.
are you running visual mods the game seems to have more balanced color and contrast than normal.
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My 4870 ran GTAIV just fine. Now that system has a 5770 in it and it runs it great as well. The system has an i7 920 @4Ghz and I think I was running unpatched GTAIV with probably 10.4 drivers at the time. Now, with the 5770, I'm running the newest drivers and still unpatched GTA.
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