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so it seems that between the 6870 and the 460 it just comes down to brand preference? i would go with the 460 just to go ahead and cover the phsyx and tess. bases, if they dont get picked up in alot of games, your not really missing anything where as if they do, ati just misses out, sort of.
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so it seems that between the 6870 and the 460 it just comes down to brand preference? i would go with the 460 just to go ahead and cover the phsyx and tess. bases, if they dont get picked up in alot of games, your not really missing anything where as if they do, ati just misses out, sort of.
Kind of. The 6870 is the superior card, in most tests, but by only a handful of FPS, depending on what kind of OC you can achieve with the 460.


At least from what I've seen..
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post #23 of 42
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lol well i wish i was getting better information but im getting this from kitguru and guru3d but yeah the stock 6870 doesnt overclock well the stock color is already loud and hot but the directcu one im getting is suposedly easily clocked to 1050 so im happy with that but im not looking into overclocking it actualy does decrease the life span of the card. and sorry about grammer and stuff its the internet im not graded or anything so im not going to spend much time on it. If i wanted to make a sentence like this with proper grammer, it would take too much time. If it bother you that much then i will type like this more often.

I will probably go with the 6870 but what do you think about the temps of the 6870 is 80 going to be an issue if i upgrade to cfx int he future and also how the rendering and 3d quality on the 6870 will it be really good?
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lol well i wish i was getting better information but im getting this from kitguru and guru3d but yeah the stock 6870 doesnt overclock well the stock color is already loud and hot but the directcu one im getting is suposedly easily clocked to 1050 so im happy with that but im not looking into overclocking it actualy does decrease the life span of the card. and sorry about grammer and stuff its the internet im not graded or anything so im not going to spend much time on it. If i wanted to make a sentence like this with proper grammer, it would take too much time. If it bother you that much then i will type like this more often.

I will probably go with the 6870 but what do you think about the temps of the 6870 is 80 going to be an issue if i upgrade to cfx int he future and also how the rendering and 3d quality on the 6870 will it be really good?
I already posted many charts with temp and noise differences in my "stupid" post. Why don't you go read through your thread again.

And CFX has no issues, and scaling on the 6xxx series is nearly 100%. 80c for a graphics card is quite cool, especially if the ambient temps are high. There made to handle 100c +


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hehe sorry and also yh the physx is looking uselesser and uselesser but stil cuda is actualy very helpful for editing but the thing is amd has started to advance their techonologys and yh the 6870 has very little clocking room like no more then 100 mhz in the luckiest cases but the soc and the talon can easily hit 1ghz but since im getting the directcu from asus hopefully it will clock better then the stock 6870
I hit 1ghz with my 6870... and it was reference design too.. so what's your point?

My cousins GTX 460 FTW won't clock 10mhz past its stock 850mhz clock. Hell that card is barely stable with STOCK clocks. Never have I been sitting at a computer that will CTD (Crash to desktop) more often while playing games than his stock 460 FTW.

If you want to step away from the kiddie table and really get something that will show you a gain for your investment I would suggest getting either a GTX 560 (which will launch Jan. 20), a GTX 470 Twin Frozr II, or a GTX 570.

Going from one 460 to another 460 is just as stupid as the kid who sticks his finger in one electrical outlet then walks to the next one to see if he will get shocked again.
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black balt its a good card i never had issues with it i sold it to friend for my reasons and yeah i know the 460 ftw is unstable but thats not one of my options i posted is it? the talong and gigabyte 460 is very stable and thanks for the gtx 560 information i did not know about that i will probably wait for it
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black balt its a good card i never had issues with it i sold it to friend for my reasons and yeah i know the 460 ftw is unstable but thats not one of my options i posted is it? the talong and gigabyte 460 is very stable and thanks for the gtx 560 information i did not know about that i will probably wait for it
I understand that you already had it and were happy with it. I was simply trying to tell you that spending money on ANOTHER 460, whatever flavor it is will not yield any real results.

In all honesty I would wait for the 560 if you can. It's only a few days away if the news threads can be trusted. That shows to be on par with a 470 I believe. Only drawback is that they are still using the same shroud design as the 460 with the fan in the middle. So you know EVGA's cards won't be any different.

Hopefully they release some nice aftermarket stuff on release day.

Good luck with your purchase, but please don't get the same thing you had before. Lol. You'll shoot yourself in the foot.

I bought the 6870 in November and don't get me wrong it was a very capable card but then it just wasn't enough for me so I upgraded to a 570. And I have to take a huge hit trying to sell a 2 month old video card that was very lightly used.
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lol well i wish i was getting better information but im getting this from kitguru and guru3d but yeah the stock 6870 doesnt overclock well the stock color is already loud and hot but the directcu one im getting is suposedly easily clocked to 1050 so im happy with that but im not looking into overclocking it actualy does decrease the life span of the card. and sorry about grammer and stuff its the internet im not graded or anything so im not going to spend much time on it. If i wanted to make a sentence like this with proper grammer, it would take too much time. If it bother you that much then i will type like this more often.

I will probably go with the 6870 but what do you think about the temps of the 6870 is 80 going to be an issue if i upgrade to cfx int he future and also how the rendering and 3d quality on the 6870 will it be really good?
Thanks for the overclocking lesson there buddy.

Also, your grammar is seriously difficult to read. Every post I read of your's makes my head hurt. It is not difficult to use periods and maybe even some capitalization here and there.

I use Crossfire 6870s myself and will beat any single card on the market. In games that support Crossfire it will beat a GTX580 in raw performance. So I guess you could call it "really good".
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Thanks for the overclocking lesson there buddy.

Also, your grammar is seriously difficult to read. Every post I read of your's makes my head hurt. It is not difficult to use periods and maybe even some capitalization here and there.

I use Crossfire 6870s myself and will beat any single card on the market. In games that support Crossfire it will beat a GTX580 in raw performance. So I guess you could call it "really good".
WAIT?! OVERCLOCKING REDUCES THE LIFESPAN OF ELECTRONICS?!

Actually, as long as you keep temps within safe ranges, it won't effect the lifespan of the card at all. If your dumb and try to OC your card and it loads at 105c then of course its gonna kill the card..
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I understand that you already had it and were happy with it. I was simply trying to tell you that spending money on ANOTHER 460, whatever flavor it is will not yield any real results.

In all honesty I would wait for the 560 if you can. It's only a few days away if the news threads can be trusted. That shows to be on par with a 470 I believe. Only drawback is that they are still using the same shroud design as the 460 with the fan in the middle. So you know EVGA's cards won't be any different.

Hopefully they release some nice aftermarket stuff on release day.

Good luck with your purchase, but please don't get the same thing you had before. Lol. You'll shoot yourself in the foot.

I bought the 6870 in November and don't get me wrong it was a very capable card but then it just wasn't enough for me so I upgraded to a 570. And I have to take a huge hit trying to sell a 2 month old video card that was very lightly used.
Oh god tell me about it i regretted buying my computer parts RIGHT before the 950 lowered prices and RIGHT before the 6870 i was so pissed. Plus my motherboard didn't read my RAM right and again RIGHT after i purchased my parts the rev.2 came out for the UD3. I was trying to sell it but no one offered a reasonable price so I was like **** it I'll keep it.


Also, there i fixed my grammer a little. I'm sorry but I'm just too lazy. Also, depending on the graphics card overclocking it can decrease it's lifespan for cards like the 470 and 480 were built to handle higher temps. Perhaps it won't decrease the life because either way you computer over time can lose its capabilities. This is at least what i have heard please correct me where I am wrong.


Finally, how come their is no solid proof like pictures of the 560 because nvidia released information about the 580 about a week before its release. Will i be gambling if I wait for the 560 or will it be an assured release with a good performance difference from the 6870 and will it come out for sure?
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