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Thanks. I went ahead and bought the $20 dual chip. Might as well.

As for GPU, what brand. I'm unfamiliar with Radeons.
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Originally Posted by Krusher33;12035059 
Thanks. I went ahead and bought the $20 dual chip. Might as well.

As for GPU, what brand. I'm unfamiliar with Radeons.



Any (x)450 card will work.


3,4,or 5.



Sapphire is a good brand, XFX, Gigabyte.
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For hd video a dual core is a must! Clockspeed is second because it will determine how well you CPU can render graphics. A lot of people suggest buying a graphics card but it's actually unnecessary. I have an AMD Athlon II x260 with a Biostar TA880GB+ mobo and only use the onboard video chipset which is a Radeon HD 4250. It runs HD video like a champ, I have an HDMI out to my 64" and I've streamed 10gb HD videos like it's nothing. So the bottom line is that the onboard video chipset for most mobos is good enough, it all comes down to your CPU. Btw my Athlon x260 is OC at 3.6 so it was more than capable at rendering. Currently I'm working on making another PC for which I'm going to use the Sempron 140 and unlock the extra core and see if it can handle HD video. It of course will considering it runs at 2.7ghz which is more than enough, considering certain HTPCs run HD video fine with 1.8ghz intel atoms. Also if your looking for cheap mobos with good onboard video chipsets, check out the Biostar A880G+ at newegg. One of the cheapest mobos you will find with an HDMI out and good video chipset, Radeon HD 4250 to be exact.
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For hd video a dual core is a must! Clockspeed is second because it will determine how well you CPU can render graphics. A lot of people suggest buying a graphics card but it's actually unnecessary. I have an AMD Athlon II x260 with a Biostar TA880GB+ mobo and only use the onboard video chipset which is a Radeon HD 4250. It runs HD video like a champ, I have an HDMI out to my 64" and I've streamed 10gb HD videos like it's nothing. So the bottom line is that the onboard video chipset for most mobos is good enough, it all comes down to your CPU. Btw my Athlon x260 is OC at 3.6 so it was more than capable at rendering. Currently I'm working on making another PC for which I'm going to use the Sempron 140 and unlock the extra core and see if it can handle HD video. It of course will considering it runs at 2.7ghz which is more than enough, considering certain HTPCs run HD video fine with 1.8ghz intel atoms. Also if your looking for cheap mobos with good onboard video chipsets, check out the Biostar A880G+ at newegg. One of the cheapest mobos you will find with an HDMI out and good video chipset, Radeon HD 4250 to be exact.

As much as I wouldn't mind getting a new board, keeping the current one still comes out cheaper because I already have RAM for it. The biostar one you mentioned is DDR3.

If I REALLY had it my way, I'd be buying a mini-ITX board and build a wooden case for it.
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The HD 4250 on the 880G chipset supports hardware decode acceleration. Frankly, for video playback, it's probably going to be a lot better than the OP's 7600 GT (which only supports MPEG-2 acceleration).

Nvidia is quite behind ATI/AMD when it comes to HTPC duties. I believe the first discrete cards they released that supports full MPEG-2, H.264 and VC-1 acceleration, and onboard HDMI with audio is the G 210/GT 220/GT 240 - features ATI has had since the HD 2000 series. Granted, I don't think ATI's cards did full MPEG-2 but that part's easy enough for most processors to handle. The 8400 GS (G98) can handle the video decoding but I believe it didn't have an onboard audio controller. You had to connect it to the mobo's S/PDIF header to get audio via HDMI.

Like others have mentioned, for an HTPC, your best bet is the HD 5450 (although older cards should work just as well).
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Originally Posted by Overdrivex2;12043773 
For hd video a dual core is a must! Clockspeed is second because it will determine how well you CPU can render graphics. A lot of people suggest buying a graphics card but it's actually unnecessary. I have an AMD Athlon II x260 with a Biostar TA880GB+ mobo and only use the onboard video chipset which is a Radeon HD 4250. It runs HD video like a champ, I have an HDMI out to my 64" and I've streamed 10gb HD videos like it's nothing. So the bottom line is that the onboard video chipset for most mobos is good enough, it all comes down to your CPU. Btw my Athlon x260 is OC at 3.6 so it was more than capable at rendering. Currently I'm working on making another PC for which I'm going to use the Sempron 140 and unlock the extra core and see if it can handle HD video. It of course will considering it runs at 2.7ghz which is more than enough, considering certain HTPCs run HD video fine with 1.8ghz intel atoms. Also if your looking for cheap mobos with good onboard video chipsets, check out the Biostar A880G+ at newegg. One of the cheapest mobos you will find with an HDMI out and good video chipset, Radeon HD 4250 to be exact.


...that's because your IGP is designed with HTPCs in mind. If your IGP couldn't handle the decoding (like the OP's), the CPU will be taxed.

HTPC with Atom only exist because the IGP is good enough.
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The HD 4250 on the 880G chipset supports hardware decode acceleration. Frankly, for video playback, it's probably going to be a lot better than the OP's 7600 GT (which only supports MPEG-2 acceleration).

Nvidia is quite behind ATI/AMD when it comes to HTPC duties. I believe the first discrete cards they released that supports full MPEG-2, H.264 and VC-1 acceleration, and onboard HDMI with audio is the G 210/GT 220/GT 240 - features ATI has had since the HD 2000 series. Granted, I don't think ATI's cards did full MPEG-2 but that part's easy enough for most processors to handle. The 8400 GS (G98) can handle the video decoding but I believe it didn't have an onboard audio controller. You had to connect it to the mobo's S/PDIF header to get audio via HDMI.

Like others have mentioned, for an HTPC, your best bet is the HD 5450 (although older cards should work just as well).

This is one reason why I was looking at the 5450's but the answer I couldn't get out of my research is "do I need it for what I do?" I decided that I would like it for its benefits.

Another reason is fanless vs an older card with an older noisy cooler.

By the way, the BFG 7600GT just has 2 DVI ports.
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...that's because your IGP is designed with HTPCs in mind. If your IGP couldn't handle the decoding (like the OP's), the CPU will be taxed.
My bad, forgive me for trolling. Well if your looking for a graphics card then check this one out ,$28 after MIR, fanless and comes with HDMI. Should be more than capable.
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My bad, forgive me for trolling. Well if your looking for a graphics card then check this one out ,$28 after MIR, fanless and comes with HDMI. Should be more than capable.

Sorry, but for just $2 more or $3 less AMIR, I'm planning to get the 5450.
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Sorry, but for just $2 more or $3 less AMIR, I'm planning to get the 5450.

Sounds good, good luck with your HTPC build!
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