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1/26/11 at 7:52pm
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Just so you know beware, these bios are messing with my ram. I cant adjust any timings now. I have to leave the timings on auto but I can change the speed just fine. If I adjust the timings at all it freezes at the windows boot logo like it would when I used the 47x multi on the old bios. I think I got a sweet spot though with my oc right now (for the cpu at least). I will post my settings when I get home. I tried 48 but it seems to take a lot more voltage so far, I will work at it later.
I'm not going to fully update the OP yet, as I want to get to gaming (hours of OCing will do that to me), but my first observation concurs with yours: this BIOS is a little wonky with RAM. I couldn't even get mine to stock timings (7-7-7-21) at stock clocks, but they do still handle 9-9-9-24 timings at a 16x multi (stock is 13.33).

This BIOS raises my multiplier/clock wall, but only slightly. I'm currently running at 99.4 x 48 = 4.771 GHz, which is a little better both in terms of clocks and benchmarks than my old 103 x 46 = 4.738--I'm especially killing my old SuperPi times despite having a slower RAM clock (1M is ~0.8s faster, 4M is ~2.8s faster). Voltage is a little up from before (1.4v), but that doesn't concern me (FWIW at 37 and auto voltages my vcore is 1.34, so this isn't even that much of an increase).

edit: you edited while I was posted. If you're working on 48x multi, try dropping your BCLK a little. Try 0.5 to start. It looks to me like you're running a lot of vcore (my CPU offset is the same as yours, but my additional turbo voltage is only 0.02), but that may be just a difference in the base vcore of our chips.
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edit: you edited while I was posted. If you're working on 48x multi, try dropping your BCLK a little. Try 0.5 to start. It looks to me like you're running a lot of vcore (my CPU offset is the same as yours, but my additional turbo voltage is only 0.02), but that may be just a difference in the base vcore of our chips.
Disable LLC, I was getting huge spikes in volts when I was using it. Running prime small fft's right now with 48x multi cpu-z reports 1.360v it goes up and down a notch or 2 but thats where its sitting most of the test so far.

Edit: just failed. More volts inbound. I upped VCCIO to 1.065 retesting. Additional Turbo Voltage: 0.140



So far so good, I'm gonna let it run for another 30 min or so then start folding on it. I'll let it fold overnight then check on it in the morning then again after work. Hopefully all goes well. I think this is it for me though.

Passed an hour of small fft's, off to bed and folding. I will update in the morning.
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1/27/11 at 7:00am
Did you try AVX IBT with that voltage? I had to go from 1.31v to 1.36v just to remain stable at 4.5ghz, from IBT 60gflops to AVX 110 gflops.
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Did you try AVX IBT with that voltage? I had to go from 1.31v to 1.36v just to remain stable at 4.5ghz, from IBT 60gflops to AVX 110 gflops.
Yeah, like I said before you should try prime95. A couple of my oc's would pass IBT no problems but let it sit on prime for awhile it would give a rounding error or BSOD. So far its been folding just fine for almost 10 hours. If it makes it while I'm at work all day I'm gonna call it good. Also while folding it sits at 1.4v instead of the 1.384 like it did with prime 95.
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1/27/11 at 7:25am
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Yeah, like I said before you should try prime95. A couple of my oc's would pass IBT no problems but let it sit on prime for awhile it would give a rounding error or BSOD. So far its been folding just fine for almost 10 hours. If it makes it while I'm at work all day I'm gonna call it good. Also while folding it sits at 1.4v instead of the 1.384 like it did with prime 95.
So wait, you passed AVX with 4.7ghz @ 1.35vcore? Thats insane.....Prime95 I haven't really done yet because the temps are usually so much lower...seems easy. I don't want to go too high, you think 1.4v is safe?
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So wait, you passed AVX with 4.7ghz @ 1.35vcore? Thats insane.....Prime95 I haven't really done yet because the temps are usually so much lower...seems easy.
The vcore was actually around 1.365. Also its not about the temps, its about the stress on the cpu, the more the better because it will show errors then. I think that how IBT lets up on the cpu after each test is what makes it easy to pass. Where as prime95 small fft's its a constant load on the cpu.
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The vcore was actually around 1.365. Also its not about the temps, its about the stress on the cpu, the more the better because it will show errors then. I think that how IBT lets up on the cpu after each test is what makes it easy to pass. Where as prime95 small fft's its a constant load on the cpu.
Ok so I am just doing 8k consistent passes? Or is it 8-64k......

By the way how did it do overnight folding? Is 1 hour small FFT enough do you think to know if it is safe or not?

On my 1055T I could run any and all Prime as long as I wanted, but IBT was the only test that showed if I needed more vcore or not.

Also are you having the same issue as me on IBT? Vcore is all over the place...under the heaviest loads it dips to 1.34, but it goes all the way up to 1.39-1.4 without load...
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Ok so I am just doing 8k consistent passes? Or is it 8-64k......

By the way how did it do overnight folding? Is 1 hour small FFT enough do you think to know if it is safe or not?

On my 1055T I could run any and all Prime as long as I wanted, but IBT was the only test that showed if I needed more vcore or not.

Also are you having the same issue as me on IBT? Vcore is all over the place...under the heaviest loads it dips to 1.34, but it goes all the way up to 1.39-1.4 without load...
It will do through 8-16k passes, I did it for an hour and on each new round I would open a streaming video in chrome (for some reason that puts a pretty big load on the cpu, the first couple times I tried it prime95 would fail so I had to keep uping the volts). I ran it for an hour then I started to fold on it, so far its done over 10hours of folding (no failed WU's) and still going strong. I have LLC off but I cant say that I'm seeing anything wierd like that. On initial test of IBT it would hit 1.40v but then it would settle at 1.384v for the rest of the round.
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It will do through 8-16k passes, I did it for an hour and on each new round I would open a streaming video in chrome (for some reason that puts a pretty big load on the cpu, the first couple times I tried it prime95 would fail so I had to keep uping the volts). I ran it for an hour then I started to fold on it, so far its done over 10hours of folding (no failed WU's) and still going strong. I have LLC off but I cant say that I'm seeing anything wierd like that. On initial test of IBT it would hit 1.40v but then it would settle at 1.384v for the rest of the round.
Oh yeah it was the same for me, but with SP1 and AVX (which I just got yesterday) the stress throws the vcore all over the place. It is also 10*C hotter.

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/1761/58291797.jpg

Using 3100mb of memory I hit avg of 113 gflops, but it isn't valid for that database.
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Disable LLC, I was getting huge spikes in volts when I was using it. Running prime small fft's right now with 48x multi cpu-z reports 1.360v it goes up and down a notch or 2 but thats where its sitting most of the test so far.
I don't see any voltage spikes with LLC on--in fact my voltages are super stable. Under load it fluctuates by exactly 0.008v under load no matter what vcore I have set--at present I'm running at 1.392 - 1.400. I don't see anything higher than that, and nothing lower when IBT or w/e is running.

What I was trying to say is that my chip clearly has a higher native VID than yours. If I set my Additional Turbo Voltage to 0.092 and CPU Voltage Offset to 0.005 I end up with around 1.47v, which is like 0.1v higher than you. This may be why I'm able to get a slightly higher OC, but of course it also demands more voltage.

And FWIW, even running at like 1.46v I can't get a 49 multi with any kind of sensible BCLK. It seems my chip hits a serious wall at around 4.78GHz (no matter the multi/BCLK combination I use), although this new BIOS has me stable with a 48x multi and 99 BCLK, whereas before I could only get in with a 98 multi.


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So wait, you passed AVX with 4.7ghz @ 1.35vcore? Thats insane.....Prime95 I haven't really done yet because the temps are usually so much lower...seems easy. I don't want to go too high, you think 1.4v is safe?
I'm running 1.4v. As long as your temps are fine I don't see a problem--Intel puts the upper end of the VID range on these chips at 1.52v.

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Oh yeah it was the same for me, but with SP1 and AVX (which I just got yesterday) the stress throws the vcore all over the place. It is also 10*C hotter.

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/1761/58291797.jpg

Using 3100mb of memory I hit avg of 113 gflops, but it isn't valid for that database.
How the hell are you getting ~109 GFLOPs on high, when I'm only getting ~67? I have higher bandwidth, and my RAM is OC'd further than yours as well.
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