Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › 1090t problems
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

1090t problems - Page 4

post #31 of 38
Just curious, what CPU overclock did you settle with? And sorry, was rebuilding my rig from the ground up to replace this POS H70 with my new Silver Arrow (+1 for Chill Factor 3). Now max temps under load at 53c!

Whats your RAM voltage and last timing 9-9-9-20-?T (make sure these aren't set to auto)?

The RAM speeds and timings tend to go hand in hand when overclocking them, usually you can only have one, IE faster speeds with looser timings or vice versa.

How do you get Rep on here?
Edited by StylePoint - 1/20/11 at 7:57pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
post #32 of 38
Thread Starter 
Boy have I had an interesting day. So to answer your questions Stylepoint here we go.

A Silver Arrow? Thats is a CPU cooler? I need a new one of them. Turns out my Spin-Q looks awesome but doesn't cool worth a ****. I was only able to make it to 3.6 and my cooler just couldn't keep up. It could hold the temps down for a bit but they were always steady creeping up. So I would have to shut Prime down when my temps approached 60c (at the socket, cores read about 4 degrees below that.) Stability wise I was able to push it to 4028 with the following specs:
CPU x19 at 4028mhz
NB x13 at 2756mhz
FSB 212
HT x9 at 1908mhz
memory x6.66 at 1412mhz
DRAM Voltage at 1.65v
9-9-9-20 timings
NB VID at 1.275v
CPU VID 1.425

I was only able to run Prime for 10 minutes because of temp issues. So I dont know exactly how stable it is but any of the times it crapped out on me it was always like a minute or two in. Once I have a better cooler Ill actually get to see how stable it is. It seems to me like my CPU VID is a little high but Im sure it all just needed some tweaking and I would be able to bump it down a bit.

Whenever I set my ram speed above 1066 it drops cores in Prime after a couple of minutes. Surprisingly at those exact settings it didnt drop the cores right away like it does. I wasn't able to push it any longer than 10 minutes but it was a good sign. I am currently waiting to hear back from OCZ support on my ram speed probs. They suggested to someone else the following:

“Set 800 mode and then raise the HTT to overclock the CPU and ram. The resulting increase in NB speeds will actually net you more performance than leaving the CPU stock and getting 1066 ram speeds at stock CPU speeds.
Just keep pushing things north until you get near 2300 - 2400 NB speedsâ€

What do they mean by HTT? Is that the hyprthread multiplier? I read that you want to keep this as close to 2000 as possible?

So anyways I set things back to normal and started to do an overclock using the fsb instead of the multiplier. I was cruising right along and when I got to 230 on the FSB BANG my power supply blew. Thankfully I had an one in my HTPC that was the same model so I scavenged that. So I set everything except the ram back at stock and Im not going to continue on till I get a better power supply (Power King sux BTW) and a better cooler. I was thinking about getting a Cooler Master V-10 (because I think its overkill and I also wanna be dam sure I take temperature out of the equation.) What do you think? Im also going to be purchasing a power supply. Any suggestions? Right now I have a 650watt power supply and I think I am going to go with a thousand watter. Just because its overkill and that’s definately how I roll.

Stylepoint I finally figured out how to increase your rep so I gave you a point for all the help. Once I reread the post I am sure more are to follow. Thanks to everyone for all the help.
HAL
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090t @ 4.08 (44c under load) Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Bios F6 Sapphire HD6970 2gb 16gb G-Skill 1600mhz CL-8's 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64g Kingston SSD, 4X1 Terabyte WD Black in Raid 10 2XAsus DVD Burners, 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 43" Samsung Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MX5500 Kingwin Lazer 850 Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower Logitech MX 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090t @ 4.08 (44c under load) Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Bios F6 Sapphire HD6970 2gb 16gb G-Skill 1600mhz CL-8's 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64g Kingston SSD, 4X1 Terabyte WD Black in Raid 10 2XAsus DVD Burners, 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 43" Samsung Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MX5500 Kingwin Lazer 850 Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower Logitech MX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #33 of 38
Temps:

Sounds like your right where I was on my 2nd revision, severely limited by high temps. I strongly recommend the Thermalright Silver Arrow (yes, it is a heatsink/fan air cooler) and strongly recommend to AVOID the Corsair H70 (and obviously its lil' brother H50). No longer do I worry about overheating, leave Prime95 on 24/7 on vacation!

*Keep in mind these stability test such as Prime95, OCCT, etc. are hardly practical for everyday use. I never get anywhere near close to those temps running my most intense 3D games, maybe........maybe a 5 degree raise from idle.

Beware this monster is BIG, but surprisingly it actually fit much better in my HAF 932 case then the H70 which kind of bowed my side wall. Anyways, if it fits def get it! If not, the Noctua NH-D14 is almost exactly the same and beaten by the SA by only a degree or 3 (sometimes that can make the difference though). I know there are a lot of other excellent coolers on the market such as the Prolimatech Megahalems and so on, but the SA is KING for now. You will just have to do some research.

1. Thermalright Silver Arrow - $75~$85
2. Noctua NH-D14 - $70~$85
3. Prolimatech Megahalems - $50-$75

*If you can afford to wait, the internet is your friend! NO tax + FREE shipping sometimes - (gas, store overhead, etc.) = Xmas.

My H70 ($130 local @ Frys) wasn't much better than my stock air cooler and for $50 bucks less I still cannot believe how this SA performs! I was able to get up to 4.275 GHz just playing around until I ran into problems. So, if your about overkill, there it is.

Mem:

First make sure your memory is on your motherboard's qualified vendors list (QVL) or basically compatible.

Next, set your overclock to stock settings and make sure your RAM works as its supposed to out of the box. If not, double check by running it with normal settings in memtest to ensure your RAM is not malfunctioning.

*I made this mistake as my RAM is not on the QVL, but that means it just hasn't been tested. I have G.Skill Ripjaws and on the first run they did not appear at 1600 MHz as they should have, but instead showed 1333 MHz. They were only $100 for 4GBx2 each with room to expand in the future, so I stuck with them. I currently run them at ~1400 Mhz with tighter timings of 8-8-8-15-1T (stock 9-9-9-24-2T) as opposed to 1700~2000 MHz with stock or looser timings. Frequency vs Latency, an age old debate....personal preference or science?

DDR-1600 @ 800 Mhz (1600 Mhz) w/ 9-9-9 = 11.25 ns
VS
DDR1333 @ 667 MHz (1333 MHz) w/ 7-7-7 = 10.00 ns

You do the math. Buy better RAM.

HT:

HyperTransport Link as far as the motherboard frequency and voltages are concerned. I have also read "to keep it in the 2000" range, but have seen many others well above and at 3000 Mhz.

* I also am still learning to reach the limits of my system, but I have been keeping my NB and HT frequencies the same. From 2000~2600 MHz and currently at 2300 MHz with almost stock voltage (NB 1.1v and HT 1.2v).

* Also, I'm not sure what these exactly do as I am also still learning with little experience in this area. You should probably do some more research or ask someone with more expertise. IMO they appear to relate to each other. I believe the "2000 range" sayings imply that there is not much performance to be gained above this limit, but I have yet to prove or disprove this. Faster is better, right? +1 OCZ support HA!

FSB vs Multiplier:

I prefer a slightly lower multiplier and much higher FSB as I believe i mentioned before for better performance all the way around the system (I'm sure you've noticed your RAM, HT, etc. raising alongside). At some point your FSB limits will force you to raise the multiplier, especially at extreme OC'ing. Try to find the sweet spot between the two.

PSU:

I have the Corsair 850TX and so far so good, but can't go wrong with the 1000!
Edited by StylePoint - 1/21/11 at 12:47pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
post #34 of 38
Your airflow configuration inside your case is also very important. Find out your current fans CFMs and directions (IE push/pull) and analyze whats wrong and what you need to do to improve. How loud can you handle?
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
post #35 of 38
If you can't lower your DRAM voltage to 1.5V at 1333 9-9-9, get rid of your RAM. Immediately.
Aside from most of the OCZ 1333Mhz memory coming with crap settings to begin with, they also pretty much don't overclock at all and come with an even more notoriously high DOA rate than most other OCZ RAM (especially OCZ gold, damn you)
post #36 of 38
Thread Starter 
I bought the OCZ ram before I knew about Spped and Timings so I wont make that mistake again. And as far as the cooler goes I think I will be doing some research. But if the SA performs as well as you say it does Im sold. Besides 75-85 isnt much to spend for peace of mind.
HAL
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090t @ 4.08 (44c under load) Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Bios F6 Sapphire HD6970 2gb 16gb G-Skill 1600mhz CL-8's 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64g Kingston SSD, 4X1 Terabyte WD Black in Raid 10 2XAsus DVD Burners, 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 43" Samsung Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MX5500 Kingwin Lazer 850 Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower Logitech MX 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090t @ 4.08 (44c under load) Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Bios F6 Sapphire HD6970 2gb 16gb G-Skill 1600mhz CL-8's 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64g Kingston SSD, 4X1 Terabyte WD Black in Raid 10 2XAsus DVD Burners, 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 43" Samsung Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MX5500 Kingwin Lazer 850 Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower Logitech MX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #37 of 38
Think we both got some el cheapo RAM...
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1090T BE @ 4.11 GHz ASUS Crosshair IV Formula XFX HD 6950 ~ Flashed to 6970 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB Win7 Ultimate 64-bit ASUS VW246H (x3 Eyefinity) CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932 
  hide details  
Reply
post #38 of 38
Thread Starter 
Yeah it looks like we did. It looked good on paper too. * gigs for 100 bucks I didnt think I could go wrong. Now I see though. Just like me to learn it the hard way. Oh well. The rams going to have to wait till I get a new cooler and psu. I did just get my Enzotech Mosfet coolers and install them. So I think Im good to crank up the FSB a little. What do you think?
HAL
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090t @ 4.08 (44c under load) Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Bios F6 Sapphire HD6970 2gb 16gb G-Skill 1600mhz CL-8's 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64g Kingston SSD, 4X1 Terabyte WD Black in Raid 10 2XAsus DVD Burners, 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 43" Samsung Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MX5500 Kingwin Lazer 850 Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower Logitech MX 
  hide details  
Reply
HAL
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1090t @ 4.08 (44c under load) Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5 Bios F6 Sapphire HD6970 2gb 16gb G-Skill 1600mhz CL-8's 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
64g Kingston SSD, 4X1 Terabyte WD Black in Raid 10 2XAsus DVD Burners, 1x LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Home Premium 43" Samsung Plasma 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech MX5500 Kingwin Lazer 850 Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower Logitech MX 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › 1090t problems