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At one point in time, the idea of a personal computer, holding millions of transistors in a little metal case, was nothing more than a Hollywood sci-fi movie concept.

Then later on, the idea of having a huge computing machine made portable, and powered by a battery, was also seen as a joke. I mean, you'd need a jiggawatt fluxcapacitor to power a laptop computer on the fly!


Fast forward to today, I say the days of PCs being built around an ultraportable phone is not that far away. We have to realize, us enthusiasts do not count. Future desktops, or even laptops, will be reserved for professionals and enthusiasts, much like a rackmount server of today.

Remember, even today, there're guys who develope their own film in their basement darkrooms, with sinks and trays and enlargers. But for all intended purposes, we can say photography is enclosed in a small digital camera, from exposure to developement.
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^ has a point.

Though I do not see a smartphone replacing our desktops in our lifetime...
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post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by oicw View Post
At one point in time, the idea of a personal computer, holding millions of transistors in a little metal case, was nothing more than a Hollywood sci-fi movie concept.

Then later on, the idea of having a huge computing machine made portable, and powered by a battery, was also seen as a joke. I mean, you'd need a jiggawatt fluxcapacitor to power a laptop computer on the fly!


Fast forward to today, I say the days of PCs being built around an ultraportable phone is not that far away. We have to realize, us enthusiasts do not count. Future desktops, or even laptops, will be reserved for professionals and enthusiasts, much like a rackmount server of today.

Remember, even today, there're guys who develope their own film in their basement darkrooms, with sinks and trays and enlargers. But for all intended purposes, we can say photography is enclosed in a small digital camera, from exposure to developement.
We are going backwards. We are headed towards weak thin clients/kiosks connected to a fast mainframe computer in the cloud. This was already done in the 1950s and 1960s.
post #14 of 22
I haven't jumped on the smartphone bandwagon yet, although I am seriously considering it. I am looking forward to the convenience of having "the internet in my pocket", but I don't see it as a PC replacement. If they develop a smartphone with a mini HDMI port so I can connect my LCD to it, a CPU (and a separate GPU) with enough muscle to run at least the older games, and a price tag under the $200 mark...maybe then I'd consider it a viable replacement. Until then, it's just a useful additional tool, but not a replacement for my PC.

Right now I have 2 options. I can either build a new desktop rig to replace my notebook, or get a smartphone each for my wife and I and a minor upgrade for my old desktop (570 or 6970 to replace the 4870). Being a full-time student, I don't get to game much anymore. When I do have time, the notebook is sufficient for most games, and I still have access to my old desktop if the game requires more power. I still haven't decided, but it's looking more like I'm getting a new phone instead of a new rig.
 
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There is some validity to the thought that Smartphones can be the computers for a majority of people.

If you look at the hardware technology right now for phones they are quickly becoming more and more powerful. Most smart phones have better specs than a Commodore 64. Smartphones already handle email, web browsing, document editing/saving/forwarding.

Add in Cloud Computing (Microsoft Office 365 and any other Cloud software) and you will not need the power of a PC to do even more things such as power point presentations, light photo editing, file storage, etc. Yet you will be able to access it from your phone.

And if you have a docking station for the phone so it can display to a monitor and allow keyboard/mouse access. You allow for better productivity and ease of access while in an office or home environment.

Will a smartphone complete replace a computer. I dont think so. Between needing the power of a PC for items such as 3d rendering, video/photo editting, gaming there will always be a place for a PC for a long time. However for day to day use such as websurfing, messaging, emails, and word processing I could forsee a smart phone being used for that within the next 10 years.
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo View Post
I haven't jumped on the smartphone bandwagon yet, although I am seriously considering it. I am looking forward to the convenience of having "the internet in my pocket", but I don't see it as a PC replacement. If they develop a smartphone with a mini HDMI port so I can connect my LCD to it, a CPU (and a separate GPU) with enough muscle to run at least the older games, and a price tag under the $200 mark...maybe then I'd consider it a viable replacement. Until then, it's just a useful additional tool, but not a replacement for my PC.

Right now I have 2 options. I can either build a new desktop rig to replace my notebook, or get a smartphone each for my wife and I and a minor upgrade for my old desktop (570 or 6970 to replace the 4870). Being a full-time student, I don't get to game much anymore. When I do have time, the notebook is sufficient for most games, and I still have access to my old desktop if the game requires more power. I still haven't decided, but it's looking more like I'm getting a new phone instead of a new rig.
Take a look at the HTC Evo and the Droid X. They have mini HDMI outputs and will provide HD @ 720p iirc
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There is some validity to the thought that Smartphones can be the computers for a majority of people.

If you look at the hardware technology right now for phones they are quickly becoming more and more powerful. Most smart phones have better specs than a Commodore 64. Smartphones already handle email, web browsing, document editing/saving/forwarding.

Add in Cloud Computing (Microsoft Office 365 and any other Cloud software) and you will not need the power of a PC to do even more things such as power point presentations, light photo editing, file storage, etc. Yet you will be able to access it from your phone.

And if you have a docking station for the phone so it can display to a monitor and allow keyboard/mouse access. You allow for better productivity and ease of access while in an office or home environment.

Will a smartphone complete replace a computer. I dont think so. Between needing the power of a PC for items such as 3d rendering, video/photo editting, gaming there will always be a place for a PC for a long time. However for day to day use such as websurfing, messaging, emails, and word processing I could forsee a smart phone being used for that within the next 10 years.
All for only $70+/month for only the data plan with bandwidth caps! How could it go wrong?
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All for only $70+/month for only the data plan with bandwidth caps! How could it go wrong?
You say like cellular phone internet isnt increasing. Remember not to long ago (last year) they introduced "4g" to the Sprint and Verizon Networks which is faster than 3G? I'll equate it to Cable Broadband. When the first broadband packages were released the bandwidth caps were pretty terrible. Not to mention the hardware could not keep up with high traffic areas and a cable modem connection was slower than dial up.

Just because there are technology restrictions today doesn't mean that in in the future we wont have overcome them. If you would of told people in 1970 that the internet would be so popular (most people back then didn't even know what it was) that it could be accessed from a phone that you carry around in your pocket, that can play video games, edit documents, and send emails. Most people would of looked at you like you were 8ft tall, purple, and had yellow spots. Because during that time who knew what a cell phone was? Who knew what the internet was? And who knew you could create a computing device so small it could fit in your pocket?
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You say like cellular phone internet isnt increasing. Remember when the first broadband packages were released? The bandwidth caps were pretty terrible and a cable connection during primetime was slower than dial up. Remember not to long ago (last year) they introduced "4g" to the Sprint and Verizon Networks?

Just because there are technology restrictions today doesn't mean that in in the future we wont have overcome them. If you would of told people in 1970 that the internet would be so popular (most people back then didn't even know what it was) that it could be accessed from a phone that you carry around in your pocket, that can play video games, edit documents, and send emails. Most people would of looked at you like you were 8ft tall, purple, and had yellow spots. Because during that time who knew what a cell phone was? Who knew what the internet was? And who knew you could create a computing device so small it could fit in your pocket?
Sprint's 4G will be capped once it starts getting seriously used. That is simply inevitable. I believe Verizon's is already capped. Virgin Mobile is capping and/or throttling overages on their "unlimited" plan in about a month because people actually buy an "unlimited" bandwidth plan for the no-caps bandwidth

Yea people we're talking about how great FiOS would be and the great speeds of the future. Well 5 or 10 years later, FiOS STILL does not exist within 500 miles of Casa Skripka...and there's still only 2 ISPs of note here. Both of whom only provide DSL, and one of which completely sucks.

Fact of the matter is that telecoms/ISPs will do ANYTHING before investing in improving their infrastructure-because that costs money.
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Fact of the matter is that telecoms/ISPs will do ANYTHING before investing in improving their infrastructure-because that costs money.

You are right the upgrade to infrastructure is very costly and most Telecom companies do not want to pay that type of money right now. However there is always a breaking point where they will either need to upgrade their infrastructure of another company will come in and do it and take their business away or even the states governments will provide solutions much better than the outdated Telecom companyies.

High Speed/Broadband Authorities are being setup in many of the states to provide high speed internet to rural area's that the telecom companies are not upgrading because of cost. Here is a list of states that have setup the broadband authorities

http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=13466


I work on the Eastern Shore of Virginia. They were subject to Verizon's outdated infrastructure and very very slow DSL/T1 lines. The counties up here setup the Eastern Shore Broadband Authority and received funding to pull fiber along the main highway of the Eastern Shore and then from there bring it into the towns. The first town to receive the benefits of this was Cape Charles, VA. The Resort I work for was able to ditch 4 bonded T1 lines and a point to point T1 line in favor for the ESVBA's service which. The pricepoint was the same however the bandwidth was significantly higher.

either way this is off topic........

I still believe that with improvment in technology that we could see the use of smartphones as an everyday computer for web surfing, messaging, emails, word processing, and other light computing needs. I would not be suprised that in the near future that this would be the case.
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