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O my! That PSU!!!! *Faint's* That thing is waiting to explode
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As sure as there is a sky
Maybe better psu I really don't think anything on p4 level is good for gaming anymore I had a phenom x4 and I did not believe how much of a bottleneck it was on my gpu


You had a Phenom II X4 bottlenecking a GTX260?
    
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No one has recommended buying another 2 GB of RAM? Try that, a cheap dual (maybe even quad) core, and a 400-500 Antec PSU.
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post #24 of 35
get a new psu first if anything!!!
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Originally Posted by thisischuck01 View Post
No one has recommended buying another 2 GB of RAM? Try that, a cheap dual (maybe even quad) core, and a 400-500 Antec PSU.
No one really recommended ram mainly because his major obstacles are his CPU and PSU, most of us were uncertain as to the budget at hand.

I however agree with you. Once a new cpu has been purchased, and he has a strong reliable PSU that can handle the system, another 2gb will improve gaming substantially.
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Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
Let us know what the local store offerings are. I, or other members, can determine the best path of upgrade.
It's not really a matter of getting the best upgrade, but the cheapest that wouldn't bottleneck. And he already purchased an E5400 from Canada Computers. =/

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get something "Core 2" based,
any Celeron e3300, or pentium e5xxx will be MUCH, MUCH faster...
you have a single core "Netburst" CPU, this is something that was quite good in 2002, but since 2006 is really slow, its much slower than even a old single core athlon 64 running at 700mhz less in general, even slower than the ATOM in many cases...

just get a cheap e5400 or something and you will see huge gains,

Pentium 4 is awful, even the Dual Core version is terrible slow (Pentium D)

I always get a bit surprised by how many people still doesn't know how slow these things are and get fooled by the "high" clocks

take a look here the much faster 660 is still much slower than the e5300
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/98?vs=92
look at Crysis P4 (3.6ghz) = 22fps, pentium e5300(2.6ghz) = 59
Lol, yea I realized that. My sister had that Pentium 4 516 that I gave my friend. I didn't think Pentium 4 was that far behind.. but now that I look at it, Core2 is obsolete now too. =/

Yea, he got an E5400 so lets just hope the power supply doesn't die. ^-^;;

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O my! That PSU!!!! *Faint's* That thing is waiting to explode
Yea... it's somehow withstanding everything. I don't have a spare 400w anywhere or anything decent lying around...

Most of the parts I have are extras that came from Retail computers.

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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post


You had a Phenom II X4 bottlenecking a GTX260?
He might be talking about Phenom x4 not the Phenom II x4 processors. Even so, I wouldn't think it would be that big of a bottleneck.

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No one has recommended buying another 2 GB of RAM? Try that, a cheap dual (maybe even quad) core, and a 400-500 Antec PSU.
Yea.. he's on the tightest budget you can imagine. o.o
I'll see if he's willing to put a bit more in for this computer.

Thanks for the suggestion. :0

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get a new psu first if anything!!!
I'm working on it. ._.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
No one really recommended ram mainly because his major obstacles are his CPU and PSU, most of us were uncertain as to the budget at hand.

I however agree with you. Once a new cpu has been purchased, and he has a strong reliable PSU that can handle the system, another 2gb will improve gaming substantially.
Yea... I didn't mention a budget because it's nothing that would be enough to buy any more parts. I'm scrounging for extras in my house that I can find. He's running caseless right now. o.o

We'll see in the future how he does and I'll be sure to upgrade the PSU and RAM (maybe give him mine when I upgrade to Sandy Bridge).

Thanks for all the help peoples.
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Yea, he got an E5400 so lets just hope the power supply doesn't die. ^-^;;
Its not a matter of if it dies, its a matter of almost indefinate certainty that it will. Its not designed for what load your putting it under. Worst case scenario is that it will take out the video card, motherboard and CPU when it goes, best case scenario is that it will spark and short out. Keep a fire extinguisher handy if he plans on running that rig with that PSU.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to extend my cautions on what hes going to be using. Its by no means the most demanding rig on this forum, but it will exceed the available power of the PSU that is in there.

Edit:

Is it by chance this PSU? http://www.handhelditems.com/watt-po...d-p-96282.html
Edited by Mattb2e - 1/17/11 at 6:10pm
post #28 of 35
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post


You had a Phenom II X4 bottlenecking a GTX260?
Ya everybody knows that cpu with a 3000 mhz HT bus takes forever to shut up sit down and give control over the ram system to a busmastering video card capable of 27 gb/s burst transfers.
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Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
Its not a matter of if it dies, its a matter of almost indefinate certainty that it will. Its not designed for what load your putting it under. Worst case scenario is that it will take out the video card, motherboard and CPU when it goes, best case scenario is that it will spark and short out. Keep a fire extinguisher handy if he plans on running that rig with that PSU.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to extend my cautions on what hes going to be using. Its by no means the most demanding rig on this forum, but it will exceed the available power of the PSU that is in there.

Edit:

Is it by chance this PSU? http://www.handhelditems.com/watt-po...d-p-96282.html
Yea, I'm suggesting for him to get a new PSU and maybe he could find a cheap one. I'll check the marketplace and maybe there's a local seller and I can save on shipping.

No, that's not the same power supply. I don't remember seeing a logo on it, just that it had a small label that said 230w on it.

Edit:

He's going to buy a Cooler master Elite Power 400w

Thoughts on the power supply?
Edited by JonC04 - 1/17/11 at 10:48pm
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