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I still have yet to see anyone with talon attack reaching 1ghz.



did you know gtx 460 hawk is also triple over voltage tweak? with exact same 7+1 phase PWM

only difference between hawk and talon attack is the memory. talon attacks have 0.4ns gddr5.

you need to fix up your research skills

you sound like a boy seeing a new gadget thinking it's the shiet.

regardless both hawk and talon attacks are the same but talon attacks have better memory and clocked at 810mhz from factory vs 780 hwak, other than that it's exactly the same

edit: msi also released the scren cap of their original hawk reaching 1ghz. so unless I see a lot of people capping 1ghz speed it's not really valid.
stop pulling things out of your ass, no offence

oh yeah, I'm still laughing my ass out.
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Still LYAO?

By the way those were MSI GTX 460 Hawk Talon Attacks that were built with triple voltage tweak. First one ever. So the previous Hawks didn't reach it. They are even built better instead of solid state capacitors they have HI-C and better Graphics memory not to mention capacitance chokes that allow for the voltage tweaks stated.

- 7+1 Phase PWM Design
- Higher current to GPU Power
- Higher overclocking capability
- Better stability in peak load
- 0.4ns GDDR5 high-speed Graphics Memory
- Enhanced on-board memory for full overclocking potential
- Military Class Components
- Hi-C Cap provides more precise GPU voltage.
- SFC (Super Ferrite Choke) : 30% Higher Current Capacity, 10% Power Efficiency Improvement.
- All Solid CAP for longer lifespan.

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=pro...6&prod_no=2054

They are new GTX 460 Hawk TALON ATTACK.

Happy gaming!

Edited by mekaw - 1/16/11 at 11:57pm
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JDMfish is right about the AMD 6870 Twin Frozr II being $50 more for quite some time. It's only just recently that Nvidia has forced AMD's hand to lower those prices.

Right now as of today anyway on NewEgg.

MSI AMD 6870 Twin Frozr II for $239.99 after $30 mail in rebate with free shipping until 1/31/11.

MSI GTX 460 Hawk Talon Attack for $229.99 + 7.56 shipping for $237.55.
     
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I still have yet to see anyone with talon attack reaching 1ghz.



did you know gtx 460 hawk is also triple over voltage tweak? with exact same 7+1 phase PWM

only difference between hawk and talon attack is the memory. talon attacks have 0.4 gddr5.

you need to fix up your research skills

you sound like a boy seeing a new gadget thinking it's the shiet.

regardless both hawk and talon attacks are the same but talon attacks have better memory and clocked at 810mhz from factory vs 780 hwak, other than that it's exactly the same
Your question was they didn't reach 1000Mhz core when they do at least the Talon Attacks do. Also look at those links from KitGuru and GPU-Z post from JDMish they hit the 1000/1000 mark.
     
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JDMfish is right about the AMD 6870 Twin Frozr II being $50 more for quite some time. It's only just recently that Nvidia has forced AMD's hand to lower those prices.

Right now as of today anyway on NewEgg.

MSI AMD 6870 Twin Frozr II for $239.99 after $30 mail in rebate with free shipping until 1/31/11.

MSI GTX 460 Hawk Talon Attack for $229.99 + 7.56 shipping for $237.55.

And it just had to happen just recently too.. I'm not going to go through the hassle of returning the card, and waiting for the 6870 to ship to see ~200 more points in 3D Mark11. And to boot, my 460 with the AC cooling is really top notch. Doesn't get a whole lot better than AC HS's for gpu's.
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Also look at those links from KitGuru and GPU-Z post from JDMish they hit the 1000/1000 mark.

Which post from me? My card hit 1000/1000 but isn't stable. That's how I got the GPU-Z validation to compare, some-what, the 6870 to 460 at similar clocks.
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Your question was they didn't reach 1000Mhz core when they do at least the Talon Attacks do. Also look at those links from KitGuru and GPU-Z post from JDMish they hit the 1000/1000 mark.
now im questioning your knowledge in gtx 460 hawk and hawk talon attack.

I won't be a dick but here:

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=pro...6&prod_no=2054

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=pro...6&prod_no=2035

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SO your saying you don't believe what you see from KitGuru testing?

http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/up...-vantageoc.png

http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/up...-vantageoc.png

Maybe you should write them and tell them you don't belive them. LOL.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...rex-review/22/

JD - I thought you were running yours stable on those Sparkles which surprised me. I thought you were talking stable. Either way the MSI Talon did it on KitGuru but obviously Mekaw knows more than them. Give me a break.

If I had to choose between the Nvidia GTX 460 and AMD 6870 I would go AMD 6870 as I did before.
     
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I'm not saying I don't believe them, I'm saying of people who bought the talon attack, there are very few a few people who were able to really reach, big thing about hawk series of 460 was MSI's release photo of hawk reaching 1ghz on air. I think there was also speculations of msi giving reviewers hand picked better performing or i guess you can say "binned", as most reviewers reached better OC, but most of these reviewers voltage adjustment were beyond what us consumers could "tweak" If i recall msi afterburner voltage slide bar only went up to 100 for hawk vs reviewers had theirs pushed up to +200, well you can reach this buy modifying bios to up the voltage limit, I didn't really read every pages of review when i was shopping for hawk gtx 460 but it's possible they have tweaked bios themselves..

don't quote me on all this but this is gist of what I remember.



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SO your saying you don't believe what you see from KitGuru testing?

http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/up...-vantageoc.png

http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/up...-vantageoc.png

Maybe you should write them and tell them you don't belive them. LOL.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...rex-review/22/

JD - I thought you were running yours stable on those Sparkles which surprised me. I thought you were talking stable. Either way the MSI Talon did it on KitGuru but obviously Mekaw knows more than them. Give me a break.

If I had to choose between the Nvidia GTX 460 and AMD 6870 I would go AMD 6870 as I did before.

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Which post from me? My card hit 1000/1000 but isn't stable. That's how I got the GPU-Z validation to compare, some-what, the 6870 to 460 at similar clocks.

well there you go, reaching 1ghz to validate gpuz vs 1ghz and stable in game, furmark, occt whatever you throw at it is different.
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JD - I thought you were running yours stable on those Sparkles which surprised me. I thought you were talking stable. Either way the MSI Talon did it on KitGuru but obviously Mekaw knows more than them. Give me a break.

If I had to choose between the Nvidia GTX 460 and AMD 6870 I would go AMD 6870 as I did before.

Negative. I am solid @ 950c for folding, gaming, benchmarking, but only 920c OCCT stable because OCCT is so harsh.

There was a guy who got to 990c I believe, on the same gpu as I, with a modified bios. I don't want to go that far.....yet.



I'd also, very likely go 6870 for about the same price as a 460. Only thing I am really digging is how quiet and cool the AC HS is on my 460. (Of course they can be mounted on just about any card, but for $50 more).
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