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That is NOT true.
The Intel spec does NOT say that that the Vcore is .025 to 1.52v.

All that it says is that the potential VID of a chip can be anywhere from .025 to 1.52. That does not mean that any chip ever will have a VID that low or that high.

People seem to grasp on to this number for some reason.


It is like saying that a tire that a company produces *could* have a recommended inflation of anywhere from 10 psi to 50 psi. That does not mean that your tire which has a recommended inflation of 30 psi is safe to inflate to 50.
But if Intel can make a chip that has a VID of 1.52 and have it operate correctly doesn't that mean that voltage has to be safe?
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But if Intel can make a chip that has a VID of 1.52 and have it operate correctly doesn't that mean that voltage has to be safe?
It isn't "if", it is "when".

There is NO indication based on a VID range that they ever have or ever will make a chip with that VID.

It just tells a motherboard manufacturer that they should be able to supply UP TO 1.52 volts based on an indication of what the VID is.

People are grasping at straws on this one.
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Well I guess we will have to wait and see then... it seems like with every new release there is always mass confusion over max safe voltage, temps, etc.

Usually that stuff gets sorted out eventually though and more accurate numbers can be released. Until then though nobody knows if they are using unsafe parameters or not.
post #164 of 185
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Originally Posted by gooddog View Post
That is NOT true.
The Intel spec does NOT say that that the Vcore is .025 to 1.52v.

All that it says is that the potential VID of a chip can be anywhere from .025 to 1.52. That does not mean that any chip ever will have a VID that low or that high.

People seem to grasp on to this number for some reason.


It is like saying that a tire that a company produces *could* have a recommended inflation of anywhere from 10 psi to 50 psi. That does not mean that your tire which has a recommended inflation of 30 psi is safe to inflate to 50.

Yorkfield VID was 0.085v - 1.3625v in their data sheet. what was the actual safe voltage for the CPU? Yes it was actually MUCH higher than the actual vid.

Sandy bridge is safe with 1.52v and good temps for 24/7. Even the doctor (intel) claim to be who are the actual makers of the cpu. Why argue with them. VID is lower to the max voltage the cpu can take just head over xtremesystem.org which people are benchmarking sandy at 1.75V now that is crazy. Guys running their sandy since release at 1.6v+ with no sign of degration.

Forget about voltage and be concern about your temp, it will kill your cpu even if you are running at 1.2v.

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Yorkfield VID was 0.085v - 1.3625v in their data sheet. what was the actual safe voltage for the CPU? Yes it was actually MUCH higher than the actual vid.

Sandy bridge is safe with 1.52v and good temps for 24/7. Even the doctor (intel) claim to be who are the actual makers of the cpu. Why argue with them. VID is lower to the max voltage the cpu can take just head over xtremesystem.org which people are benchmarking sandy at 1.75V now that is crazy. Guys running their sandy since release at 1.6v+ with no sign of degration.

Forget about voltage and be concern about your temp, it will kill your cpu even if you are running at 1.2v.

VID is not vCore. VID has NOTHING to do with the max safe vCore. So the page from the intel specs is random and proves nothing.

It is possible that the max safe vCore >> VID or it could be that max safe vCore << VID.

There is no proof that SB is safe at 1.52 since VID has nothing to do with it and there is nothing else in the spec that says the safe vCore range. Look up how VID is used and check out the posts on xtreme that talk about how VID is used by the motherboard.

Is it possible that 1.52 or 1.62 or 1.72 is safe?? Sure. Just nothing in the specs that support that view.

People keep confusing VID with vCore.

Again, all that VID is is a range of POSSIBLE required voltages that a CPU could require.

It doesn't say that Intel will ever have a chip that is requires or even is safe at 1.52 or that they will ever produce a chip that runs at spec at .25v (why do people keep ignoring the low end of the range )
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VID is not vCore. VID has NOTHING to do with the max safe vCore. So the page from the intel specs is random and proves nothing.

It is possible that the max safe vCore >> VID or it could be that max safe vCore << VID.

There is no proof that SB is safe at 1.52 since VID has nothing to do with it and there is nothing else in the spec that says the safe vCore range. Look up how VID is used and check out the posts on xtreme that talk about how VID is used by the motherboard.

Is it possible that 1.52 or 1.62 or 1.72 is safe?? Sure. Just nothing in the specs that support that view.

People keep confusing VID with vCore.

Again, all that VID is is a range of POSSIBLE required voltages that a= CPU could require.

It doesn't say that Intel will ever have a chip that is requires or even is safe at 1.52 or that they will ever produce a chip that runs at spec at .25v (why do people keep ignoring the low end of the range )

VID, yes is true does not have anything to do with the max safe voltage but is well know that all VID max voltage RANGE in intel cpu is lower than what the cpu max voltage or even safe voltage. It seems that it might not even be 1.52v safe voltage it seems to be more like 1.55v safe voltage from intel records. Why sandy bridge should be any different from the 15+ cpu intel has release.
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post #167 of 185
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VID, yes is true does not have anything to do with the max safe voltage but is well know that all VID max voltage RANGE in intel cpu is lower than what the cpu max voltage or even safe voltage. It seems that it might not even be 1.52v safe voltage it seems to be more like 1.55v safe voltage from intel records. Why sandy bridge should be any different from the 15+ cpu intel has release.
Plus people assume that a 32nm chip will automatically have a lower vCore than previous chips.

But Sandybridge is not comparable to other chips, it is a completely new architecture, and as such has different stats.

If intel lists a 1.52v VID, I would trust that 1.52v is safe. But in the end, it only matters what you decide apon.
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+1 for OP. This helped me greatly. I've been getting random BSOD even at 42x, this has made a big difference for me.
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+1 for OP. This helped me greatly. I've been getting random BSOD even at 42x, this has made a big difference for me.
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