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Currently I've only ever upgraded computer parts, and before I switch cases I have some questions.

1.) How do I remove an IO shield without damaging it?

2.) Is this the correct installation order? ( Risers, Motherboard on risers, Screws into risers )

3.) What are the common mistakes for building a new system? ( Or in my case switching cases )

4.) After I put it all together and my system doesn't turn on what are the first things I should try?
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post #2 of 10
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Currently I've only ever upgraded computer parts, and before I switch cases I have some questions.

1.) How do I remove an IO shield without damaging it?
Very carefully, actually. This is the only way I could think of answering.

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2.) Is this the correct installation order? ( Risers, Motherboard on risers, Screws into risers )
They're actually called "stand-offs", but that is the correct order. And actually, there's no other way to do it.

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3.) What are the common mistakes for building a new system? ( Or in my case switching cases )
My most common mistake seems to be forgetting to plug in the CPU's power cable (which is the 4-pin or 8-pin power cable that plugs in up near the CPU socket).

But other common mistakes are not using stand-offs, using too many, or inserting one or two in the wrong hole(s).

I think a big one might include putting every single part into the case, making it pretty, and then turning it on assuming that it's ready to go. I mean, what if something isn't done right that requires removing the motherboard?

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4.) After I put it all together and my system doesn't turn on what are the first things I should try?
If you have another computer to use, then I recommend coming here to OCN for troubleshooting.
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Oh and if I connect an Anti Static Wrist Band to the interior of the Phantom, will it still ground me? ( Seeing as it has a painted interior )
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Oh and if I connect an Anti Static Wrist Band to the interior of the Phantom, will it still ground me? ( Seeing as it has a painted interior )
Only if the power supply's cable is plugged into the wall, and only if that outlet is grounded (try to find a way to test it). But the PSU doesn't have to be turned on in order for this to work; it's just that this connection has to be made.

Also, those anti-static wrist bands are more or less unnecessary unless you're prone to forgetting to touch the metal of the case first (painted or not). I mean, if you touch the metal of the case before doing anything, then you're grounded. However, if you're standing on carpet, then you should either work barefoot, or don't move your feet once you've grounded yourself. It's also not a bad idea to wear as little clothing as possible to reduce the chances of static building up from the clothes moving against your skin.
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post #5 of 10
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I know most of that, I was just curious if a painted interior would affect it, thanks.
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Oh and if I connect an Anti Static Wrist Band to the interior of the Phantom, will it still ground me? ( Seeing as it has a painted interior )
Just don't wear socks or staticy clothing - especially on carpet. Build while barefoot and touch the case before touching sensitive computer components.
    
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post #7 of 10
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Also does it matter which screwdriver I use?
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Phillips-head screws are traditionally the most widely used in computers. So any Phillips-head screwdriver that fits the screws in your case should be the right tool for the job!

Also, one with a magnetized head may help, so you don't accidently lose screws while inserting or removing. Best to touch the components as little as possible once you've gotten them all in place.
     
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post #9 of 10
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I meant for example, can I kill the motherboard while screwing in a screw ( the screwdriver doesn't touch the motherboard ), etc.
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I meant for example, can I kill the motherboard while screwing in a screw ( the screwdriver doesn't touch the motherboard ), etc.
Fortunately, no.
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