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I had nvidia since my 9800pro all in wonder and now i have the 6870's. (still have an 8800gts in my other computer) I can't believe people still come here and say that ATI(or AMD now) drivers are bad. I've never had any issue with officially released drivers from either company, and I don't have any issues with my crossfire now. All i know is that I get 100 to 200 fps in almost all my games, and that's with max settings @ 1920X1200. That's the most important thing to me. I got AMD because i liked all the connectors on the card and have a few monitors
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The problem is that GTX580 may be faster but the extra speed does not help much when it comes to Metro 2033, Crysis etc. Basically GTX580 cant max them so no point on getting one. Also HD 6950 is a better deal. I love my GTX580 because i got it for cheap but for 500$ it would get GTX570 insted if u want to go nvidia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snelan;12041598 
The 580 has about a 15% advantage on the HD 6970. Also, the HD 6970 is AMD, so it will have crappy drivers, no CUDA, PhysX, bad scaling for X-Fire.

......Get the GTX 580

Check facts, before you spout off stuff please.
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Scaling on the 69xx's is great, OP I'd only buy 6GB of RAM use that extra $ to get 2 580's or 2 6970... Get the 6970's for 2560x1600 and above.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01;12041899 
I don't think either of the current cards have a scaling problem. IIRC even the HD 5870 has good scaling again. I guess it's just that the 6870s are less bottlenecked than the faster cards. It's hard to keep 2 GTX 580s busy all the time.

@ OP

If you prefer maximum performance get the GTX 580. If you want to trade in some performance for a decent chunk of money, get an HD 6950 and unlock it. No offense mate but seeing you have a mac, you are more of a GTX 580 type biggrin.gif

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Haha, no offense taken. However, I place a great emphasis on the OS on my Mac so I can easily justify paying more, if necessary. However my iMac was quite the deal for what I wanted, wouldn't really have paid less for a PC (a lot of the cost is in the screen).

Mmm, I'm so torn... I decide to go AMD and then I go no I want NVidia ahah eek.gif
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Originally Posted by jasonhardin;12042264 
Are you going to be doing a lot of multitasking while playing your games? If not then save yourself the $100 and get the i5 2500k and OC it to 4.6GHz on air and put that extra money towards a GTX580 biggrin.gif
No, but some new games take advantage of those additional threads don't they? Will an i5 run much cooler than the i7? I don't multi-task when I game, I just game. I'll use my Mac for everything else.
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Originally Posted by BlakHart;12047123 
Scaling on the 69xx's is great, OP I'd only buy 6GB of RAM use that extra $ to get 2 580's or 2 6970... Get the 6970's for 2560x1600 and above.
Mmm, I'd like to get two 6970's (one first) but then I don't want to miss out on PhysX... I can use a dedicated PhysX card though can't I? 2 CF + 1 NVidia

I'm going to post a thread to ask for help on parts, as I want it to be as cheap as possible but without using crappy parts. Thanks everyone! EDIT: NVM, I've got it pretty good so far.
Edited by steelbom - 1/17/11 at 5:51pm
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post #46 of 63
I had the same dillema until my gpu went dead! @#@$$$ ATI. I will stay away from ati for the rest of my life! crappy drivers...crappy bugs...and my msi r5870 lighting got fried! i will go for the gtx 580 for sure!
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Originally Posted by snelan;12041598 
The 580 has about a 15% advantage on the HD 6970. Also, the HD 6970 is AMD, so it will have crappy drivers, no CUDA, PhysX, bad scaling for X-Fire.

......Get the GTX 580
AMD don't have crappy drivers and Crossfire is scaling better than SLI.
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I've been on both sides of the fence now. My first stint in custom computing land was with Crossfired 5850's. Loved the cards and they overclocked exceptionally well. However, ATI's drivers sucked...sucked! Moved over to a GTX 580 when they were first released and couldn't be happier. Does that mean Nvidia is always better or vice versa? No.

If you are simply trying to equal the performance of a top end card with two cheaper cards -- great. I can see the reasoning behind it. Get an awesome performance potential on the cheap. At the same time, if you want the fastest, most powerful setup in a single card, with the possibility of adding a second beast of a top-end card down the road (read: SLI GTX 580s), then go that route instead. Yes it will cost more and put out more heat. But it's more powerful. With great graphical power comes heat and energy requirements. You can't escape that. Yes, manufacturers are getting better and limiting said sticking points. But no matter how you slice it, top-end cards are going to run hotter and require more energy than lower end cards.

As I see it, people are missing the point when they complain/trash talk/boast of their double mid-range to low high-end Crossfire/SLI setup beating a top-end, single GPU card. The outcome serves two completely different purposes. Do you want 85-105% of the performance on roughly 70-90% of the cost and equal amount of power consumption? Or, do you want 100% performance now, for more money, with the potential to then go the dual card route for a setup that will truly decimate everything?

It all depends on what you're looking for.
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post #49 of 63
CFX drivers are horrible.

"Compromise is for losers," so true, good slogan.

Go with AMD its cheaper biggrin.gif
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You will always have issues with xfire or sli if the game isnt 100% supportive of the feauture .. BFBC2 , crysis , metro etc all pretty much scale from 80-100% all the games that matter work perfectly in xfire or sli mode ..

as for drivers , amd dont have bad drivers .. They are perfectly fine , i have no complaints ? only the odd few people who stroll in here and decide to have a rant .. its not ati's fault , its the users fault for not knowing how to use a pc properly .. dont own or play games on a pc if u have no clue what ur doing , u will just end up here asking rediculous questions and claim ati drivers are bad ? When i have not had 1 issue , EVER!

Id go 6970 ftw! 580 is good , though its a rip off .. 10% more performance for $200 , ye rite just overclock the 6970 and call it a day ... Only the hardcore noobs would go buy a 580 , little do they know its nothing more than a 6970 no matter what you think .. performance wise in most games it would be the same .. benchmarks maybe different.
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