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Originally Posted by Xristo;12251927 
only the odd few people who stroll in here and decide to have a rant .. its not ati's fault , its the users fault for not knowing how to use a pc properly ..

I'm far from retarded when it comes to computers. In fact, I have to deal with them, their problems, and their incompetent users every single day for my job. But when I have to start tinkering and actually work to make my computer run smoothly (as you state it "My fault for not knowing how to properly use my computer") someone (either ATI/Nvidia/*insert company here* has failed at their job. My job is to turn on my computer, let updates install if need be, and get on with whatever it is i want to do -- not spend 7 hours searching the internet for some random driver to some random bug.

Granted, being that we all use custom PCs with an almost unlimited amount of configurations some "work" is to be expected. And to be clear, my problems with ATI were never serious, merely a pain (I'd get home from work late and be ready for a nice 30-40 minute gaming session only to be met with some random driver issue). Nonetheless, i understand both sides have their rough patches with drivers. But thus far, I've had 1 single issue with my GTX 580 and Nvidia's drivers related to sound dropping in and out. My ATi drivers on the other hand were a monthly occurrence.
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...Crossfire is scaling better than SLI.

This wasn't always the case, and honestly, multi-GPU scaling fluctuates from generation to generation. One year AMD is better and then next year Nvidia is better. If I recall, the 5xxx series wasn't the best at 2x scaling. Toss in a third card for tri-fire and it was a joke. On that same note, tri-sli wasn't as beneficial either.

Of course, once you talk about 3 high-end cards on one system, you have to start looking at CPU bottlenecking.
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In the end you cant go wrong with either card. The fact is you get same game experience as far as fps count from both card.
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Assuming you want to avoid an SLI/CF set-up:

Want the better card?

GTX 580

Want better $/fps?

6970.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=305

^Check it out there. The 580 is slightly louder (~5dB) under load.
    
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From someone unbiased here....

I've ran with ATI cards the majority of the time as they were better bang for the buck. ATI is simply "Man on a budget" And Nvidia has been for those with deeper pockets but more performance.

On a GPU stand point and overall -- I feel ATI is better than Nvidia in the 5xxx and 4xxx series. The 6xxx series is beaten in almost every single category by Nvidia. Performance, price, power, heat etc. Last generation, ATI used less power, less heat, had very low idle in 2D mode and had a card out 7months sooner than Nvidia did. This time, it was reversed.

Nvidia improved power/heat, added it's own low idle as well. This round, Nvidia took ATI's advantages down.. sooo

If you're picking the latest card, sorry to say, Nvidia wins this round. I currently have a 5870 and I'm selling soon when I get rep and I have the GTX 580 on the way here (got it for $425 shipped and I had $65 in paypal, so same price as a 6970)

On another note -- AMD/ATI is prepping their monster cards releasing next generation. This generation (6xxx) was merely a stepping stone to them. Look around at the architecture improvements and think how it'll benefit later on.

Go Nvidia this round if you have to.
     
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Thanks everyone,

I'm thinking the GTX 580 oc'd might be a good route rather than SLI or CF.
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It seems like AMD as a company is always a half step behind the competition and competes mainly on price rather than outright performance.
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ATI 6970 or wait for the ATI 6990 card?
amd fanboy....gtx 580 hands down beats every card on the market....fanboys really make me angry.
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amd fanboy....gtx 580 hands down beats every card on the market....fanboys really make me angry.
No it doesn't, HD5970 > GTX580
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No it doesn't, HD5970 > GTX580
Okay, now how about "Single GPU" on the market.

Better? Can you beat that one?.. nope

I say go with GTX 580 this series or wait till next series -- Nvidia won this round, sadly. I've stuck with ATI since the 3850 -> 4850 -> 2x 4870's -> 5870

And now the GTX 580 because it beats the 6970 in EVERY single category. Other then power consumption
     
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