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Hey Guys, Been looking to upgrade for some time, heres a list of parts im considering, do you guys recommend any other parts for the same price? im running on tight budget so please dont start suggesting GTX 580's etc..

Firstly, my current computer: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1502245

GPU: No idea, Currently have: Radeon HD 4650 (BUDGET £50 MAX)
Mobo:Here£38.80
HDDPurchased, 500GB Spinpoint F3
Cpu Fan:Purchased, Freezer 7 Rev 2
Ram:Here£36.92
Raid:Here£31.60
Case: Purchased, ThermalTake v3 Black

Total: £~190

And finally, just incase you havent noticed im from the UK, so if your outside of there please be sure to suggest anything which is available here, oh and i put the raid card on there so id need probably another HDD :/, id like to get a motherboard that supports RAID already if possible then i can afford the other hard drive.

Thanks very much guys, really appreciate the help of this forum from time to time.
Edited by xbroak - 1/17/11 at 10:01am
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Id go with any gigabyte board, they provide a good balance of price and performance. As for the graphics card you may want to purchase from ocn and grab yourself a great deal, you could get a card from smokinwaffle here:http://www.overclock.net/video/88456...800gt-xfx.html
I bought a card from him and I was very happy. As for ram its up to you really, I would go for some good ram to minimise bottle necks, pm me if you want to ask anything!
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Id go with any gigabyte board, they provide a good balance of price and performance. As for the graphics card you may want to purchase from ocn and grab yourself a great deal, you could get a card from smokinwaffle here:http://www.overclock.net/video/88456...800gt-xfx.html
I bought a card from him and I was very happy. As for ram its up to you really, I would go for some good ram to minimise bottle necks, pm me if you want to ask anything!
Any ones you reccommend? i looked at the thread, one was a broken card and one was £12 so im doubting its worth to me, what should i look for with regards to ram
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I'm a bit confused on the upgrade can you clear up some things.

What are you trying to upgrade to? The new MB on your list is old tech not really better than your current one.

So the parts that you are keeping are
1. old quad cpu
2. old ram plus some new ram. So maybe you want 8 gigs total and the new mb supports 8
3. Video card

I need a price range in US dollars to start with. And do you do much gaming?
The 4650 is not that good if its a gimped ram model (Which most are).
I have one with faster ram and its much better but would be nice to know if you game much at all. Ive got a 6 cpu lan so I have systems from fast single core all the way up to i7 quads and ATI and Nvidia video cards. I have a good understanding of the limits of each system as i've played all the same games on all of them.

You plan on keeping XP as the OS?

Also the on board RAID is not nearly as good as a dedicated Raid card.

I've done it both ways its when the raid goes down that the raid cards shine. Why not a PCix raid card?

RAM you can get crazy on the ram but if you are not into heavy overclocking your really not going to feel much difference in real world. No WOW effect from ram speed. Some wow by adding more ram depending on what your doing. 4 gigs is enough for most. I've got 6 and its not really any different than 4 unless I try to use it all up with multiple apps.

Hard drive speed is something that you will noticed. Its the weak link in all cpu systems in terms of feeling the slow downs. Unless the PCix raid card is expensive I would get that so you have SATA 300 vs 150.

You don't really need Raid 1 (I think Raid 0 sort of a waste) if you have a decent image software.
Just get a external network or USB hard drive and make an image of drive C. And never have Drive C as the only drive. Keep the OS and utils on C and the games on another part ion. Having one big drive is stupid.

I have had many HDs go down over the years. Software Raid or on board raid sucks for this situation. I can get the entire drive back in 10 min using an image. So I'm not so sure a Mirror Raid is worth it. I still have Mirror raids but use an adaptek card vs the on board. The Raid cards work well. On board I dont trust as when they go down sometimes the OS will not boot, and ya have to get the utils out to access the data on the good drive. With true hardware raid you just pull the bad drive and the OS never goes down.

So If ya dont go with a hardware raid card I would just not raid at all, I'd use acronis or Macrium Refect (Its free and better than Acronis) for the image.
Edited by RAJOD - 1/17/11 at 7:56pm
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I'm a bit confused on the upgrade can you clear up some things.

What are you trying to upgrade to? The new MB on your list is old tech not really better than your current one.

So the parts that you are keeping are
1. old quad cpu
2. old ram plus some new ram. So maybe you want 8 gigs total and the new mb supports 8
3. Video card

I need a price range in US dollars to start with. And do you do much gaming?
The 4650 is not that good if its a gimped ram model (Which most are).
I have one with faster ram and its much better but would be nice to know if you game much at all. Ive got a 6 cpu lan so I have systems from fast single core all the way up to i7 quads and ATI and Nvidia video cards. I have a good understanding of the limits of each system as i've played all the same games on all of them.

You plan on keeping XP as the OS?

Also the on board RAID is not nearly as good as a dedicated Raid card.

I've done it both ways its when the raid goes down that the raid cards shine. Why not a PCix raid card?

RAM you can get crazy on the ram but if you are not into heavy overclocking your really not going to feel much difference in real world. No WOW effect from ram speed. Some wow by adding more ram depending on what your doing. 4 gigs is enough for most. I've got 6 and its not really any different than 4 unless I try to use it all up with multiple apps.

Hard drive speed is something that you will noticed. Its the weak link in all cpu systems in terms of feeling the slow downs. Unless the PCix raid card is expensive I would get that so you have SATA 300 vs 150.

You don't really need Raid 1 (I think Raid 0 sort of a waste) if you have a decent image software.
Just get a external network or USB hard drive and make an image of drive C. And never have Drive C as the only drive. Keep the OS and utils on C and the games on another part ion. Having one big drive is stupid.

I have had many HDs go down over the years. Software Raid or on board raid sucks for this situation. I can get the entire drive back in 10 min using an image. So I'm not so sure a Mirror Raid is worth it. I still have Mirror raids but use an adaptek card vs the on board. The Raid cards work well. On board I dont trust as when they go down sometimes the OS will not boot, and ya have to get the utils out to access the data on the good drive. With true hardware raid you just pull the bad drive and the OS never goes down.

So If ya dont go with a hardware raid card I would just not raid at all, I'd use acronis or Macrium Refect (Its free and better than Acronis) for the image.
Thanks for the reply, firstly id be changing from a DDR2 ram supported to a DDR3 one, and from 400mhz or w/e im running to the 1333mhz, yes im keeping the CPU, I dont overclock so id just use a newer motherboards automatic overclocking features, 4Gb would be total RAM for me, casual gaming is what id like, something that'l run most basic games, i have no interest in playing things like COD : Black Ops on high etc.. id like to be able to play most games on medium to high if possible as i do now, im already on Windows 7 now, just havent updated my sig etc..

So you reccomend i get a raid card for sure? and use it for raid 0? I really could not care less about backing up my computer, i can loose everything for all i care, i can download them again, however im sure if i get attached i can make some images of my raid 0 setup surely? if thats possible?

Ive got 6 internal HDD's i can potentially save to as 'Data drives' so thats not an issue either, i hope thats answered everything you wanted to know.

P.s. 180 Pounds is $287 so theres a budget for you ^__^
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Stilling looking for help guys.
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