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1/237 using the exact same species.
Meaningless.

First successful attempt.

How many attempts were made to make a device to actually fly before it first happened?

Baby steps.
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thats pretty cool but i think they should leave it alone.... i dont like where this could lead
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Meaningless.

First successful attempt.

How many attempts were made to make a device to actually fly before it first happened?

Baby steps.
Mammoths aren't just hairy elephants, they're a separate species. This is going to take 1000s of tries to get to embyro, and hundreds of said embryos to get one to actually implant itself in the elephants womb, and only a very small portion of those will survive to term, and maybe one will be born without any defects. This is pointless research, aimed at getting people interested enough to give them money for real science, which is sad.

Making a hairy elephant won't teach us anything about mammoths- we won't know it's social behaviors as the furball will mimic its elephant mom, we won't know its exact diet as it will eat what we give it, and it will be subject to years of testing in a stable- not its natural habitat. For what purpose? Because we wanted to. There is no scientific purpose being served by resurrecting a mammoth- only a monetary one.

This simply won't matter to the world. It will be irrelephant.
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I'm ready for Mammoth burger.
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Actually, it's not fragmented... DNA can be found in fossilized egg shells and soft tissue has been found in fossilized bones that are 70m years old. The trouble is extracting DNA without damaging it.
Really? Last I heard, the fossilization process destroys all the original organic material, replacing it with something that isn't susceptible to decay.

Plus, the T-rex bone that had 'soft tissue' in it didn't really have soft tissue, it simply hadn't ever been broken, so some of the basic chemicals that made up the organic matter were still present. IIRC, DNA can't last that long without decaying, and as such, we've never found a fossil with Dino DNA in it.
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This is a terrible idea... mans worst enemy is it's greed.
    
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As cool as this is (and as much as I want to see it done), I almost feel bad for the little mammoth to be. I'm not one to be all against animal testing and the likes, but this is almost like cloning an animal simply to study it. It just seems a little morally grey to me. And in one article I read, they said they weren't sure if they were going to show it to the public. Oh come on. That should be a crime if they don't. And really, if they don't, who's to say that they actually did. I wanna see a baby mammoth!!

Even if a mammoth is born alive, chances are it wont live to be full size. Will it even be able to eat the kinds of food that are around now?
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Remember reading stories about the idea 20 years back and have always been fascinated by the idea.

Awesome they're so close now.
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Mammoths aren't just hairy elephants, they're a separate species. This is going to take 1000s of tries to get to embyro, and hundreds of said embryos to get one to actually implant itself in the elephants womb, and only a very small portion of those will survive to term, and maybe one will be born without any defects. This is pointless research, aimed at getting people interested enough to give them money for real science, which is sad.

Making a hairy elephant won't teach us anything about mammoths- we won't know it's social behaviors as the furball will mimic its elephant mom, we won't know its exact diet as it will eat what we give it, and it will be subject to years of testing in a stable- not its natural habitat. For what purpose? Because we wanted to. There is no scientific purpose being served by resurrecting a mammoth- only a monetary one.

This simply won't matter to the world. It will be irrelephant.
You're making a LOT of assumptions here.

Thousands of tries? Well, it hasn't been done yet. They could get lucky, or they might not. Most likely they won't, but it's really nice of you to look into your crystal ball and tell me your 'facts'.

Social behaviors? Umm.... you do realize that many behavioral traits are genetic? No, of course you didn't. That's why there is a whole field dedicated to a science known as behavioral genetics.



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Really? Last I heard, the fossilization process destroys all the original organic material, replacing it with something that isn't susceptible to decay.

Plus, the T-rex bone that had 'soft tissue' in it didn't really have soft tissue, it simply hadn't ever been broken, so some of the basic chemicals that made up the organic matter were still present. IIRC, DNA can't last that long without decaying, and as such, we've never found a fossil with Dino DNA in it.


Learn to read.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...o-tissues.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ssil-eggs.html
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haven't these scientists played resident evil, prepare for a zombie apocalypse!
    
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