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post #1121 of 1895
Hi,
You can overclock and save power all the same.
all you have to to is load the latest BIOS A01 or B01 and set everything to default values. I only disable oc genie (because it is conservative). And set my DDR freq and timings. After that i go to the CPU-z properties and set the individual core multiplayer limits to 44. I get a stabel system at 45 or 46. For 48 better to set vCore around 1,3 vCore. But that is tricky because it will quicly go over the 1.4 volt recommended by MSI.
Run CPU-z and prim95 in windows with a time test with 1000 cycles and look at what the multiplyers do, they go up and down between x16 and set values according to needed CPU power.
Saves some power when idle, but give you the overclock capabilities when needed.!
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I've been looking trough this thread but I haven't found a certain page with particular settings for such an oc. Could you point me in the right direction?
This is basically all you need: http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...-oc-guide.html

It has the settings you need and the voltages (stock for everything besides Vcore and DRAM voltage really).
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New bios for GD65/55/53: 1.11b4

HWBOT (scroll down a bit)

I couldn't find it in the first post, I thought it might be interesting
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it's supposed to do that, it's called vdroop, set it to high for a lower top voltage and low for a higher vcore. i remember my asus p67 deluxe had an offset you could set to affect vdroop but msi dosn't have it
but this thing doesn't work on this board... you can set it to whatever you want and still it doesn't have any effect on the voltage behavior

but i think all this has been said here and solution cannot be found, we just have to wait and hope that MSI will release bios where you can set voltage to one precise value and it will stay on that value in Load
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...but i think all this has been said here and solution cannot be found, we just have to wait and hope that MSI will release bios where you can set voltage to one precise value and it will stay on that value in Load
Don't hold your breathe for that update. It's always possible that new bios will be release to lessen the vdroop but never will it eliminate it. Vdroop is there by design for protecting the cpu (Intel specs can confirm this). There has been many complaints about vdroop making difficult to maintain OCs. That's not true. Every mobo I've own had vdroop...It basically comes down to understanding the value fluctuation.
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Don't hold your breathe for that update. It's always possible that new bios will be release to lessen the vdroop but never will it eliminate it. Vdroop is there by design for protecting the cpu (Intel specs can confirm this). There has been many complaints about vdroop making difficult to maintain OCs. That's not true. Every mobo I've own had vdroop...It basically comes down to understanding the value fluctuation.
But our complaint is that there isn't Vdroop. They have to fix their faulty LLC which certainly is possible. A drop of 0.01V at load is far better than an increase of 0.04V
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Don't hold your breathe for that update. It's always possible that new bios will be release to lessen the vdroop but never will it eliminate it. Vdroop is there by design for protecting the cpu (Intel specs can confirm this). There has been many complaints about vdroop making difficult to maintain OCs. That's not true. Every mobo I've own had vdroop...It basically comes down to understanding the value fluctuation.
okay, then it's time to find out where can I buy H70 and stop caring about few extra milivolts on vcore :-)
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But our complaint is that there isn't Vdroop. They have to fix their faulty LLC which certainly is possible. A drop of 0.01V at load is far better than an increase of 0.04V
Ah! Tis true but LLC & vdroop work logically & consistently together...well it suppose to We all know that having the LLC disable will result a significant drop in the cpu vcore when going from idle to load & vice-versa. We also know that LLC goes against Intel's design and do it's best to try to keep the voltage constant at all times. Gigabyte & ASUS were considered the best at this regarding the LLC feature (not sure how they're doing w/P67). MSI reminds me of the Nvidia mobos. XFX had never implemented the LLC feature to their mobos but EVGA did. At the end of the day, it did not make a difference with LLC enabled or disabled when OC'ing. I've come to my own conclusion that MSI respects Intel's design and probably should of left the LLC feature out if they are not trying to improve it. That's why is just best to leave LLC disable and get a better feel for the load fluctuation. IMO, decent mobos do not need LLC enabled anyway. You're not gaining a higher OC from it (at least it hasn't for me during the years). LLC enabled lowers the vcore in the bios but at the end of the day, the cpu will still require the same amount of vcore when put under load. As long you have a good quality mobo, a nice amount of phases (more is always better), and a good quality psu, you're all good


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okay, then it's time to find out where can I buy H70 and stop caring about few extra milivolts on vcore :-)
That's the spirit
Edited by drBlahMan - 5/3/11 at 6:54am
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Ah! Tis true but LLC & vdroop work logically & consistently together...well it suppose to We all know that having the LLC disable will result a significant drop in the cpu vcore when going from idle to load & vice-versa. We also know that LLC goes against Intel's design and do it's best to try to keep the voltage constant at all times. Gigabyte & ASUS were considered the best at this regarding the LLC feature (not sure how they're doing w/P67). MSI reminds me of the Nvidia mobos. XFX had never implemented the LLC feature to their mobos but EVGA did. At the end of the day, it did not make a difference with LLC enabled or disabled when OC'ing. I've come to my own conclusion that MSI respects Intel's design and probably should of left the LLC feature out if they are not trying to improve it. That's why is just best to leave LLC disable and get a better feel for the load fluctuation. IMO, decent mobos do not need LLC enabled anyway. You're not gaining a higher OC from it (at least it hasn't for me during the years). LLC enabled lowers the vcore in the bios but at the end of the day, the cpu will still require the same amount of vcore when put under load. As long you have a good quality mobo, a nice amount of phases (more is always better), and a good quality psu, you're all good
I agree, but I still can't turn it off.
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I agree, but I still can't turn it off.
Okay...Where do you see the LLC in the bios? I'm looking at the GD65 manual and it does not even show a LLC feature How can you disable it and it's not there?
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