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Have any Arch or Gentoo users with these boards had luck booting an install CD in UEFI mode without any complicated hijinks? I can't get GRUB2 installed and I think booting in BIOS rather than UEFI mode is the problem.
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how is p67a-g45 stack up with other model?
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Planning my first upgrade in nearly 5 years and I decided on a GD55. However, despite the favorable reviews, the things I'm hearing about the vcore fluctuations, boot loops, bios / flashing issues and the problems with customer service is making me seriously reconsider my decision.

Of course you can find bad things about any model / brand if you do research, so I suppose my question to the owners here is if you were to do it all again, would you choose this motherboard again or go another way?

Also, a followup question (might've already been answered, I need to comb through the thread) is anyone running Ripjaws X with a Hyper 212+ on this board?
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I have a 212.
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i have a 53, and i would absolutely pick it again. i have had no problems with it, and have enjoyed it greatly
    
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I want to hit 4.5GHz, but I don't think my chip will allow me to.

Currently, I'm on 4.4GHz @ 1.336v in CPU-Z (1.35v in BIOS) that is 4.5hours stable on P95. I'm assuming this is Vdroop that's causing my CPU-Z Core Voltage to be lower than what I set as my BIOS Core Voltage?

When I try for 4.5GHz, I had to add like 1.38 vcore in the BIOS so that it reads 1.368 vcore in CPU-Z. I was able to get that running on P95 (Blend test but using 7,000mb ram) for 3hours 50minutes before getting a BSOD with 0x101 error code. Even if it was stable, I just don't like idea of 1.38vcore in the BIOS (even though CPU-Z says 1.368) [is this bad]?

Any suggestions?

Some info:
BIOS: v1.13 (1.D)
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Enabled
CPUIO: 1.05v
System Agent: 0.925
Vdroop Control: Auto
RAM: Manually set to 1600 7-8-7-24-2T @ 1.601v

Turbo: Disabled
C1E: Disable
EIST: Enabled
C-State: Disabled
EuP 2013: Disabled

For backup, if I can't hit 4.5GHz, do you think i can lower my vcore for my 4.4GHz? or is 1.336v CPU-Z (1.35v BIOS) okay?

edit: some more info, idle voltage is higher (1.344v) than p95 load voltage (1.336v) @ 4.4GHz (bios still @ 1.35v), again that's vdroop, right? and it's normal, correct?
Edited by yks - 11/26/11 at 11:08pm
post #1767 of 1895
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Originally Posted by yks View Post

I want to hit 4.5GHz, but I don't think my chip will allow me to.
Currently, I'm on 4.4GHz @ 1.336v in CPU-Z (1.35v in BIOS) that is 4.5hours stable on P95. I'm assuming this is Vdroop that's causing my CPU-Z Core Voltage to be lower than what I set as my BIOS Core Voltage?
When I try for 4.5GHz, I had to add like 1.38 vcore in the BIOS so that it reads 1.368 vcore in CPU-Z. I was able to get that running on P95 (Blend test but using 7,000mb ram) for 3hours 50minutes before getting a BSOD with 0x101 error code. Even if it was stable, I just don't like idea of 1.38vcore in the BIOS (even though CPU-Z says 1.368) [is this bad]?
Any suggestions?
Some info:
BIOS: v1.13 (1.D)
Internal PLL Overvoltage: Enabled
CPUIO: 1.05v
System Agent: 0.925
Vdroop Control: Auto
RAM: Manually set to 1600 7-8-7-24-2T @ 1.601v
Turbo: Disabled
C1E: Disable
EIST: Enabled
C-State: Disabled
EuP 2013: Disabled
For backup, if I can't hit 4.5GHz, do you think i can lower my vcore for my 4.4GHz? or is 1.336v CPU-Z (1.35v BIOS) okay?
edit: some more info, idle voltage is higher (1.344v) than p95 load voltage (1.336v) @ 4.4GHz (bios still @ 1.35v), again that's vdroop, right? and it's normal, correct?

set vdrop control on low and EuP enabled then PLL, system agent ,cpuio on auto....till 4.5 ghz u can use vcore on auto ....isnt true that vdrop control doesn it nothing...on my board
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Originally Posted by yks View Post

I want to hit 4.5GHz, but I don't think my chip will allow me to.
Currently, I'm on 4.4GHz @ 1.336v in CPU-Z (1.35v in BIOS) that is 4.5hours stable on P95. I'm assuming this is Vdroop that's causing my CPU-Z Core Voltage to be lower than what I set as my BIOS Core Voltage?
When I try for 4.5GHz, I had to add like 1.38 vcore in the BIOS so that it reads 1.368 vcore in CPU-Z. I was able to get that running on P95 (Blend test but using 7,000mb ram) for 3hours 50minutes before getting a BSOD with 0x101 error code. Even if it was stable, I just don't like idea of 1.38vcore in the BIOS (even though CPU-Z says 1.368) [is this bad]?
Any suggestions?
For backup, if I can't hit 4.5GHz, do you think i can lower my vcore for my 4.4GHz? or is 1.336v CPU-Z (1.35v BIOS) okay?
edit: some more info, idle voltage is higher (1.344v) than p95 load voltage (1.336v) @ 4.4GHz (bios still @ 1.35v), again that's vdroop, right? and it's normal, correct?

First, here's Vdrop and Vdroop. Vdrop is from BIOS to idle. It's completely normal and harmless. The true voltage is the one in CPU-Z, so disregard the BIOS voltage.
For 4.5 GHz, I see no problem putting it to 1.38 V. The CPU-Z voltage is the true one. Also, you won't really harm the CPU 'til 1.45 V or something like that.

Nice, someone without LLC. Yes, the drop from idle to load voltage is Vdroop. This is normal and good. Don't listen to Alcatraroz, you're lucky to have a board that doesn't have higher load than idle voltage. LLC is very harmful, especially at high voltages, so keep it like it is.
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set vdrop control on low and EuP enabled then PLL, system agent ,cpuio on auto....till 4.5 ghz u can use vcore on auto ....isnt true that vdrop control doesn it nothing...on my board

I'd rather set the vcore myself, I can't even do 4.3 with Auto vcore without BSODing
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First, here's Vdrop and Vdroop. Vdrop is from BIOS to idle. It's completely normal and harmless. The true voltage is the one in CPU-Z, so disregard the BIOS voltage.
For 4.5 GHz, I see no problem putting it to 1.38 V. The CPU-Z voltage is the true one. Also, you won't really harm the CPU 'til 1.45 V or something like that.
Nice, someone without LLC. Yes, the drop from idle to load voltage is Vdroop. This is normal and good. Don't listen to Alcatraroz, you're lucky to have a board that doesn't have higher load than idle voltage. LLC is very harmful, especially at high voltages, so keep it like it is.

Thank you for clearing everything up. I was worried my board was going funky for not using the voltages I specified, it's nice to know I got lucky on my board.

To clarify, you're saying I should be safe adding more vcore in the BIOS pass 1.38v, since CPU-Z is saying 1.368v, correct? Because I was BSOD'ing at those volts. If this is true, I might even try to set the BIOS to 1.42v, so I can get 1.4v in CPU-Z and try to hit 4.7GHz.

The only thing now is, I'm stuck @ 4.4GHz on idle, before I was hitting 1.6GHz idle. EIST is on. is this because I disabled C-State? I could've sworn I had C-State disabled with EIST enabled before and was getting 1.6GHz idle.
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I'd rather set the vcore myself, I can't even do 4.3 with Auto vcore without BSODing
Thank you for clearing everything up. I was worried my board was going funky for not using the voltages I specified, it's nice to know I got lucky on my board.
To clarify, you're saying I should be safe adding more vcore in the BIOS pass 1.38v, since CPU-Z is saying 1.368v, correct? Because I was BSOD'ing at those volts. If this is true, I might even try to set the BIOS to 1.42v, so I can get 1.4v in CPU-Z and try to hit 4.7GHz.
The only thing now is, I'm stuck @ 4.4GHz on idle, before I was hitting 1.6GHz idle. EIST is on. is this because I disabled C-State? I could've sworn I had C-State disabled with EIST enabled before and was getting 1.6GHz idle.

Yes, you're completely safe adding more voltage. I've done suicide runs with >1.6 V, so it's not like you can make it blow up with just 1.4 V.

It's either the C-state or C1E, but most likely C-state.
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