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If you are using 1.10b6 Beta Bios_ Please be aware that it could have set your CPU I/O Voltage to 1.35+Volts which is too much voltages off the stock 1.050volts, PLEASE MANUALLY SET THIS VOLTAGE TO 1.050Volts as it should be, this way you'll prevent damages to your CPU
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Quote:
Originally Posted by httuner;12970062 
If you are using 1.10b6 Beta Bios_ Please be aware that it could have set your CPU I/O Voltage to 1.35+Volts which is too much voltages off the stock 1.050volts, PLEASE MANUALLY SET THIS VOLTAGE TO 1.050Volts as it should be, this way you'll prevent damages to your CPU

I/O is the same thing as VTT. Where did you read that 1.35v is enough to damage your CPU?
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Originally Posted by HAF_wit;12973883 
I/O is the same thing as VTT. Where did you read that 1.35v is enough to damage your CPU?

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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard;12973904 
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+3% of 1.575 isn't less than 1.35v. Do you have an actual reference for this data? I've been going off of the intel spec sheets, and my interpretation of this is that max vccio is +3% of VDDR3.

Edit: I'm not saying that 1.05v isn't max, just that from everything I've read it's just typical (meaning what oem manufacturers spec for at stock). I'm always looking for more information, so if I'm wrong, I'm happy either way. biggrin.gif
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oof and msi told me to try ramping the vccio up to 1.5 to get my 2133 memory up to speed
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+3% of 1.575 isn't less than 1.35v. Do you have an actual reference for this data? I've been going off of the intel spec sheets, and my interpretation of this is that max vccio is +3% of VDDR3.

Edit: I'm not saying that 1.05v isn't max, just that from everything I've read it's just typical (meaning what oem manufacturers spec for at stock). I'm always looking for more information, so if I'm wrong, I'm happy either way. biggrin.gif

What are you looking at? +3% of 1.575V doesn't make sense, one is for Vccio and the other is for Vddq.

Vddq or Vccio? You should be looking at Vccio AFAIK which is 1.05V default and +3% = 1,0815V.

EDIT:

Here we go:
Quote:
VDDQ: more commonly known as Vdimm or Vdram, this is the voltage for your memory. Formally known as I/O voltage for DDR3, Intel states maximum at 1.575. YOU should run this at whatever it says on your RAM.
So when you say Vddq, we're actually talking about Vdimm or DRAM on our boards. This should be between 1.5V and 1.65V unless you have special low-voltage RAM, just like my OC guide says.
Quote:
VCCIO: more commonly known at QPI/VTT voltage, this is the VTT voltage. Formally known as Processor Power for I/O it is the voltage for the integrated memory controller as well as the PCI-E controller. While Intel’s Maximum is 1.05 +/- 3% = 1.08v, you can go higher, much higher. I would recommend staying below 1.2v for 24/7 use, but depending on the quality of the IMC on your chip, I have seen 2133 MHz done on as little at 1.1v.
Vccio is, as it says in my OC guide, meant to be 1.05V. This guy claims you can go higher and I've heard the same from other sources, but I'd play it safe and stay under 1.15V. It won't need a bump unless you're doing extreme speeds.

I can't remember all these things, but I seem to have done my homework when I wrote my recommendations. Just pray to god that Intel didn't miscalculate something.
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I/O is the same thing as VTT. Where did you read that 1.35v is enough to damage your CPU?

I'm just saying that the original voltages is 1.050volts and after the flash with Beta bios 1.10b6 it bumped this voltage up to 1.35 when this voltage is set to AUTO and thats excessive_

From what I've read through research from others its reported that the original voltage is indeed 1.050volts and as always bumping voltages excessively higher usually damages something(Its more of a common sense thing)

So why run a higher voltage when you don't need it? =]
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What are you looking at? +3% of 1.575V doesn't make sense, one is for Vccio and the other is for Vddq.

Vddq or Vccio? You should be looking at Vccio AFAIK which is 1.05V default and +3% = 1,0815V.

EDIT:

Here we go:


So when you say Vddq, we're actually talking about Vdimm or DRAM on our boards. This should be between 1.5V and 1.65V unless you have special low-voltage RAM, just like my OC guide says.


Vccio is, as it says in my OC guide, meant to be 1.05V. This guy claims you can go higher and I've heard the same from other sources, but I'd play it safe and stay under 1.15V. It won't need a bump unless you're doing extreme speeds.

I can't remember all these things, but I seem to have done my homework when I wrote my recommendations. Just pray to god that Intel didn't miscalculate something.

Right, I agree that vddq is the same as VDRAM. Vccio is supposed to be within 3% of maximum vddq. (Same thing as QPI/VTT) MSI themselves as Kourgath states even recommends keeping the voltages above 1.25-1.4v to maintain stability when overclocking.
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(found at http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-GD65--B3-.html#/?div=Manual)

Why would MSI tell you to blow up your CPU by using voltages 400mV higher than maximum? I'll do some more checking, but I'm pretty sure that the +3% to vccio refers to being within the max vddq (VDRAM). I just want to be sure we all have correct information as many read this site and take what is written as gospel. smile.gif
(Again, if I'm wrong - that's fine as long as accurate information is presented, not "well, some guy at xyz.com/forum said so".)
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I'm confused now lol, too many numbers and terms anyhow all great info
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I'm just saying that the original voltages is 1.050volts and after the flash with Beta bios 1.10b6 it bumped this voltage up to 1.35 when this voltage is set to AUTO and thats excessive_

From what I've read through research from others its reported that the original voltage is indeed 1.050volts and as always bumping voltages excessively higher usually damages something(Its more of a common sense thing)

So why run a higher voltage when you don't need it? =]
I absolutely meant no disrespect, I was just concerned seeing red font everywhere and was trying to preempt any ad hominem that tends to start on these boards. People tend to scare easily when it comes to their precious electronics! laughingsmiley.gif

Where are you seeing this voltage by the way? I've been toying with the "proper" (using turbo) way to overclock since it seems they've started fixing it in the BIOS, and my vccio is at 1.05v. Below is an example of what I have been messing with, and this is under 100% load.
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speedfan graph during load:
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Are you using a multimeter by chance? I haven't used mine since my initial installation of my new b3, so I don't know if software is reading voltages incorrectly. I assumed that the software is correct as it was when I first tested a couple weeks ago.

Edit: Ignore the vcore in that ControlCenter image. C1E still isn't working right, so I had to manually set it there for windows to boot. I'm trying to get it go "turbo" up to x48/50 and idle back down to x16, but the vcore is still being stubborn. frown.gif
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i5-2500k Asus P8P67 Deluxe EVGA Geforce 580 FTW HC2 (SLI) Mushkin 996997 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair F90 SSD Samsung Spinpoint F3 LiteOn DVD EK Full Nickel CPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK Spin-Bay Reservoir Swiftech MCP-650 Pump Bitspower Fittings 1/2"ID x 3/4" OD Primochill Tubing (UV Green) 1/2"ID x 3/4" OD 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Swiftech Hydroropper II GPU Waterblocks (x2) HWL Black Ice GTX 360 Radiator HWL Black Ice GTX 120 Radiator Windows 7 Ultimate x64 sp1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung ToC P2770H M$ 4000 Ergo-nom-nom-ic Corsair AX1200 HAF X Nvidia Edition 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G9X Belkin FTW Asus Essence STX  Onkyo TX-SR309 
AudioAudioOther
Polk Series II Monitor40 speakers Velodyne CT-120 Sub Lamptron FC-5 Fan Controller 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-2720QM Lenovo 42762QU/Intel QM67 chipset Nvidia Quadro 2000M Intel HD 3000 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 SoDIMM 1600Mhz Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe SSD Seagate Storage Sony Optiarc 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
Stock :x Windows 7 Professional Lenovo 15.6" 1920x1080 FHD 175W Brick of DOOM 
CaseMouseAudio
Thinkpad Roll-Cage Microsoft Bluetooth 5000 Conexant 20672  
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