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post #751 of 1895
ok, so i just adjusted dram to 1.55 now and core volt to 1.2

his is new screen after a couple of mins of prime

didn't have more time to run longer.

How's it looking?

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I promise you that EIST + no C-State limit = low idle speeds. C1E won't lower your idle voltages either.
Okay, now I'm a bit confused. I was going to prove to you how C1E is necessary to lower your voltage when at idle as well as allowing EIST to lower your multiplier, but I came across something weird. (The below screenshots are done at stock clocks since my PC won't boot at AUTO voltage @ 4.8Ghz.)
C1E enabled idle:

C1E enabled load:


Now here is where it gets weird, the above are what I expected as I've been trying to get my CPU to downclock on idle with voltages moving accordingly. It wouldn't in the past if voltage was manually set above 1.4v, so I stopped until recently. I've started overclocking using turbo and setting my multi in the turbo section, (which incidentally has lowered my required vcore) but voltages won't drop as it's still above 1.4v. I noticed that removing C1E didn't affect it, so I tried removing the no limit switch - still no change. I completely turned off C states, and...

C states off, idle:


C states off, load:


I'm not sure what's going on here now as there was a huge difference between having C1E on with C states enabled. I admit that this isn't conclusive, but without C1E, my CPU wouldn't downclock from 4.8Ghz. (Intel SVID also had to be enabled as APS wouldn't do it either.)

What's confusing to me is that C1E is supposed to be low power state per Intel, and C package limit is supposed to be related to the amount of power allowed for each stage of processor use.
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CPU/Package sleep states

C0 - Active: CPU is on. C0 is the operating state.

C1 - Auto Halt: core clock is off. C1 is a state where the processor is not executing instructions, but can return to an executing state essentially instantaneously. Some processors also support an Enhanced C1 state (C1E) for lower power consumption.

C2 - Stop Clock: core and bus clocks are off. C2 is a state where the processor maintains all software-visible state, but may take longer to wake up.

C3 - Deep Sleep: clock generator is off. C3 is a state where the processor does not need to keep its cache coherent, but maintains other states. Some processors have variations on the C3 state (Deep Sleep, Deeper Sleep, etc.) that differ in how long it takes to wake the processor.

C4 - Deeper Sleep: reduced VCC

DC4 - Deeper C4 Sleep: further reduced VCC
Source

Here's some more information on C states and why this result is a little confusing: Intel C state blog

Note: I have windows set to performance, so my OS is not downclocking or undervolting. (Something any overclocker should change to keep stability.)
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Originally Posted by Jurgennoppe View Post
ok, so i just adjusted dram to 1.55 now and core volt to 1.2

his is new screen after a couple of mins of prime

didn't have more time to run longer.

How's it looking?

http://img97.imageshack.us/i/testwit...155andcvo.jpg/
Looks decent.
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Originally Posted by HAF_wit View Post
-Snip-
I didn't get any of that... Listen, low idle voltage is because you're using Auto, nothing will make it idle with low VCore if you've set VCore manually. C1E support will let the CPU idle at 1.6 GHz or load at max. EIST (even without C1E) will let it adjust between 1.6 GHz and max depending on load.
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i was just wondering my ram is supposed to run at 9-9-9-27 at 1.65v

if i set it to auto,it sets it at 9-9-9-25

what's better? and isn't it bad to run ram below its regular setting of 1.65v, or doesn't that matter?
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post #755 of 1895
Received my tax refund and ordered the P67A-GD65 B3, I5 2500K and 8-gig Gskill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 memory. I also had to order the 1155 back plate for my Thermalright U-120 Extreme heat sink. Should have everything this week.

This will replace my Gigabyte GA-EP54-UD3P, Q9550 and 8-gig Gskill Trident PC2-9600 which I probably will sell. This combo was good to me and was great for overclocking. I just hope the MSI turns out as good.

First time with a MSI board, so I will be out of my comfort zone since I have been mainly a Gigabyte board guy. Can't wait to receive the goodies.
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just played rift for an hour,no probs, was just wondering if the temps are good?

http://img585.imageshack.us/i/naamloosz.png/

also, both my 6970 go up to 90% temp under load, is that ok??
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post #757 of 1895
Quote:
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i was just wondering my ram is supposed to run at 9-9-9-27 at 1.65v
I don't know. What RAM do you have? You should update your profile with a signature system.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurgennoppe View Post
if i set it to auto,it sets it at 9-9-9-25
what's better? and isn't it bad to run ram below its regular setting of 1.65v, or doesn't that matter?
9-9-9-25 would be faster, thus better. If the ram is running at a lower voltage, it should run cooler. As long as it is stable, it's a win-win. But again, we need to know what RAM you have to tell you where it should be.

Thanks,

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1600mhz kingston hyperX at 1.65v which i set at 1.55 and 9-9-9-27.
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1600mhz kingston hyperX at 1.65v which i set at 1.55 and 9-9-9-27.
You are good. As I said, if it will take less voltage, and it is stable (i.e. Memtest86+) then it will run cooler, which is always a good thing.

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thx.

just played rift for an hour,no probs, was just wondering if the temps are good?

http://img585.imageshack.us/i/naamloosz.png/

also, both my 6970 go up to 90% temp under load, is that ok??
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