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MSI is the one who suggested dos bios flashing. im going to contact newegg tomorow as i still have 15 days left on return/rma
Sucks to go through all that and still have to RMA. Hopefully things go better for you!
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Just played with 4.7ghz settings a bit this morning and vcore fluctuation just sucks bigtime. i have now 1.330v at bios and in idle voltage is 1.312 but then loads to 1.348 with linx, it seems like more i add voltage bigger the difference gets beetween idle and load pff. I think it will be soon mobo change for me.



Next step is to run 6h+ P95 blend and if it passes then just normal use to test the idle stability.
Honestly I hate to use marketing terms, but I'm starting to wonder if the early P67 boards weren't meant for high overclocks due to such a small phase array. I noticed the GD80 has double the phases and the BBM has 24. I'm really close to buying an Asus just to test this out. (12 phases on the Deluxe)
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Honestly I hate to use marketing terms, but I'm starting to wonder if the early P67 boards weren't meant for high overclocks due to such a small phase array. I noticed the GD80 has double the phases and the BBM has 24. I'm really close to buying an Asus just to test this out. (12 phases on the Deluxe)
Im dunno why this is happening with this board but i doubt its due the lack of phases. My friend has Asus P67 sabertooth and it does "only" have 8 phases but voltage regulation is still far superior compared to this. With hes currect 4.6ghz 1.3v settings he is getting 1.298v in idle and 1.305v in load, and not like GD65 style variance what can be as high than 0.040v LOL.
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Im dunno why this is happening with this board but i doubt its due the lack of phases. My friend has Asus P67 sabertooth and it does "only" have 8 phases but voltage regulation is still far superior compared to this. With hes currect 4.6ghz 1.3v settings he is getting 1.298v in idle and 1.305v in load, and not like GD65 style variance what can be as high than 0.040v LOL.
Well, if you have less power phases I'm pretty sure it's going to draw down more current to meet the power requirements which would lead to stability and vdroop issues I'd imagine. That's why I'm wondering if this is the cause. I just need to talk the wife into letting me spend another 250 bucks on another motherboard!

(I have to watch my spending or she won't let me take the dive on an Ivy Bridge set up when it's released )
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How would a higher A draw cause higher V draw? This can only be an LLC problem AFAIK.


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I really don't know how all these people are achieving stability at such low voltages. I have the p67a-gd55 with the 2500k and I just had to bump my machine up to 3.355v @ 4.5ghz. I keep thinking I'm stable but sure enough in idle (never in prime95) I get a BSOD or just a lockup. 3.355v seems to be very stable but I'm not going to bump it up any higher, if I have to I'll drop the multiplier to 4.4ghz, something I really don't want to do. I'm jealous of all the 4.8ghz OCers but if I could stay stable at 4.5ghz I'd be content.

And in case you're wondering, I started with B!ohazard's guide and worked from there. I also tried bit-tech's guide but was a little freaked out by some of their recommendations that seemed to run in direct opposition to what B!ohazard has said (system agent voltage recommendations, for example). I was also having a BSOD problem with my Creative X-fi Xtremegamer Card which wasn't playing nice with the Realtek drivers, giving me 0x00000124 BSOD errors. I looked it up and it seems to be an audio issue, and tried disabling the onboard HD audio. That seems to be working. However, it's also possible that it's the x-fi card itself, since I've never had a lockup of that nature running on the onboard audio.

A lot of information, I know! This is just my first real build and I'm having fun (and some frustration) feeling everything out.
Are you sure, you've enabled PLL Overvoltage?
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I been actually thinking Asrock p67 fatal1ty board, it has 16+2 phases and have got quite good reviews. It has more functions too than my other choice what is P8P67 Deluxe and is 20-30€ cheaper here in finland But i think i need to take some time and think closely what im going to get next that wont end up to regret it.
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I been actually thinking Asrock p67 fatal1ty board, it has 16+2 phases and have got quite good reviews. It has more functions too than my other choice what is P8P67 Deluxe and is 20-30€ cheaper here in finland But i think i need to take some time and think closely what im going to get next that wont end up to regret it.
Let us know what your results are if you decide to go that route! I haven't seen too many reviews on Asrock stuff in awhile (I haven't really looked tbh) so I don't know what their quality is like nowadays. Definitely going to do some looking into them though.
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As a new owner of P67A-GD65 B3 I cant to start using it, but I am still waiting for some of the components to arrive. What CPU cooler should I use with 2600k and all 4 ram slots populated with corsair vengeance dd3 4x4? Is Corsair A70 too big? What about A50 or CM Hyper 212+? Smth else? Since I already spent lots of money for my new build I am looking for smth with a decent price.

Thank you for your answers,

Peter
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hahahhaha yes I mean 1.335v, not 3.335v. That's the second time I've done that on these boards...I must have been more tired than I thought.

Yes I have PLL overvoltage enabled. Doesn't that only kick in for overclocks higher than 4.7ghz though?
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Im dunno why this is happening with this board but i doubt its due the lack of phases. My friend has Asus P67 sabertooth and it does "only" have 8 phases but voltage regulation is still far superior compared to this. With hes currect 4.6ghz 1.3v settings he is getting 1.298v in idle and 1.305v in load, and not like GD65 style variance what can be as high than 0.040v LOL.
You need to use a multimeter in order to know your voltages. Don't trust the software. Some of these boards are known to overvolt...If someone has alreaday done DMM measurements above, that should apply to that model, then that's fine. Not going to read through the entire thread to find that, though...
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I know voltages probably arent 100% what programs reports but its known problem with this board that it has loads of fluctuation in voltages because vdroop control is not working at all atm.
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